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Chinese rubber (DHS Hurricane) vs High Tension rubber (Tenergy) table tennis


David Frank

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100 COMMENTS

  1. Wing Low Posted on April 1, 2017 at 12:38 pm

    Some people think the more expensive the equipment, the better. That's completely wrong. The equipment must fit your level and your style of play. I use Hurricane 3 rubber ($18) and Yinhe W-1 blade ($60) for years. Bought all in the U.S. What's important is the sponge hardness, which is not normally indicated . I was lucky. I asked for and got 40 degree forehand, 39 degree backhand.

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  2. Loveleen Sharma Posted on April 4, 2017 at 7:59 am

    thanks for the amazing pieces of information…. Keep up the good work… thanks.

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  3. Vivero Bosque de Alimentos Posted on April 10, 2017 at 4:28 am

    Hi, very useful video, thanks. What do you think about adding paraffin oil to the rubbers? I did it to my bluefire m1 and acuda S3 and they feel tackier…

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  4. faisal who? Posted on April 12, 2017 at 12:26 am

    Very informative. Thank you very much! Please keep these coming!

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  5. Kalil_lift Posted on April 16, 2017 at 12:56 am

    Whats the best Rubber for control? i bought a stiga carbon pro paddle but it doesn't have a good feel for control on the rubber.

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  6. Tuan Luong Posted on April 18, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    rốt cuộc ông chủ page "em rất thích" là người việt hay tàu??

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  7. Kris L Posted on April 27, 2017 at 9:25 am

    The graphs are slightly correct but not fully telling the truth. The upper limits should not have such big a difference.

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  8. halooa Posted on April 29, 2017 at 9:50 am

    Hi, wich Racket should i use? I want to begin Table Tennis 🎾 but there are many different designs of the wood. I cant create an overview about all these. Whats "speed" in a wood for example?

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  9. Teacher Jung Posted on May 1, 2017 at 4:23 am

    yinhe blades are very recommendable

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  10. Eric Gachet Posted on May 6, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    blabla western players are all so stupids, blabla chinese kids are real genius. pffffffff!

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  11. Haris Kriještorac Posted on May 10, 2017 at 5:13 am

    Could you please give me a suggestion for a new forehand rubber? I a defensive player who likes to play far from the table. I have a heavy topspin loop, but sometimes also chop on the FH. My blade is Joo se Hyuk.

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  12. Vivero Bosque de Alimentos Posted on May 26, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    Hi, I just bought DHS Hurricane 3 NEO (http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-665340457-goma-dhs-hurricane-3-neo-_JM), here at Argentina there is only one version of it, very cheap (25 USD), I dont know if it is the national, provincial or what… could you tell me?

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  13. Georgy Kitov Posted on May 29, 2017 at 10:53 am

    EmRatThich Hi. Do You not explain what the parameter "throw angle"?

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  14. Vivero Bosque de Alimentos Posted on June 2, 2017 at 3:43 am

    Today I used for the first time 2 DHS Hurricane 3 NEO on my Korbel SK7 (very cheap and tacky!): it was amazing, easy to loop, too much spin, I can do backhand flip very easy and the oponents are surprised by the massive spin (serves, FH topspin, etc.) Very thanks to EmRatThich for the excelent advice! Now I should get used to it!

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  15. Jason Tan Posted on June 2, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    so chinese rubber hurricane 2 or skyline 2 neo is fast too?

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  16. Jonathan RC Posted on June 6, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    Excellent !!! thanks for all you videos 🤗

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  17. Jonathan RC Posted on June 6, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    I'm starting to play again, but it is so hard to decide what rubber to buy to get back in the game, and I'm not spending a lot of money so for now this is what I'm planning to buy to get back on track, Andro Super core cell ALL, Andro rasant grip, FH and rasant beat BH. Can some one look in to this setup and advice me ? I'm and intermediate looper, also like to put heavily spin on serves and couter, take care guys !

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  18. L. Gyger Posted on June 10, 2017 at 12:31 am

    5:20 That's what I noticed as well with my Tenergy 05! There is a point where you just can't apply more force to the ball. When I hit it too hard it seems like the ball starts floating without any additional spin. I noticed that I don't have that problem with harder rubbers like the Tibhar Evolution MX-S which is basically the hardest European rubber you can get. The Chinese rubbers are well more suited for athletic hard hitting players which I consider myself, BUT you need an excellent footwork to play with those rubbers. The Tenergy 05 is just more reliable when your position to the ball is a little off and it suits my playstyle better even though I reach that force limit sometimes. It just happens too rarely. I like those spinny opening topspins and they're much easier to play with the T05 than with a Hurricane 3 f.ex. You have to play differently with Chinese rubbers. I think I could play with such a rubber, but there's almost no way to get a real national version of the DHS rubbers here in Europe. The tensor rubbers are also a lot easier to play and you don't have to boost them.

    I would still love to know how Ma Long's racket plays, just to get an idea of the Chinese equipment. I am sure it's great for powerful high risk shots, short game and serving. It's probably very hard to use in the passive game (blocking, soft countering, pushing), on flip shots and spinny opening topspins.

    Great video, you actually said all these things, so I almosted repeated everything, haha.

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  19. Jhelel Gustilo Posted on June 13, 2017 at 1:24 pm

    This is not true., chinese rubbers like H3 are sensitive to incoming spins., tensor rubbers must be faster than hard chinese rubbers., chinese rubbers are more on control and very slow., this video are all false., wtf?

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  20. Tevin Tech Posted on June 18, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    Where can I buy DHS Hurricane 3 National? Please help me find legitimate rubbers..

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  21. Mr Kepweng Posted on June 20, 2017 at 9:37 am

    emratthich
    First of all thanks for your post!
    Need your humble advise recently i am using sardious blade Huricane neo 3 (not boosted) for my fh and Rakza7 soft in my bh, should i need to boost my neo3 or not? i am intermidiate player

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  22. Mr Kepweng Posted on June 20, 2017 at 9:37 am

    emratthich
    First of all thanks for your post!
    Need your humble advise recently i am using sardious blade Huricane neo 3 (not boosted) for my fh and Rakza7 soft in my bh, should i need to boost my neo3 or not? i am intermidiate player

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  23. Rolly Casuga Jr. Posted on June 21, 2017 at 2:46 am

    then what chinese commercial rubber do you recommend for us players.

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  24. yuan yuan Posted on July 5, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    I am doubtful about that the logo with curved border is original, I bought hurricane 8 at various sources amazon, paddle palace and also from some coaches and non of them have the curved border. They also felt playing well.

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  25. Mr.Miguel Monsieur Posted on July 9, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    hi emrathich, the chinese rubbers are make to the long and power backswing ? tensor are make to short backswing ?

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  26. oki sapta Posted on July 13, 2017 at 12:14 pm

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  27. Rezwan Sadat Posted on July 15, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    thank u sir. it will help me a lot

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  28. Luis Greco Posted on July 26, 2017 at 1:39 am

    It's a pity they wears out fast. I always wanted to try bty spin art, but well… you know, the price.

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  29. Panda DN Posted on July 27, 2017 at 6:23 am

    If ZJ gives me his racket, i will sell it xD

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  30. Good Better Best Posted on July 27, 2017 at 9:03 am

    What is the difference between DHS HURRICANE H3 and DHS HURRICANE 3

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  31. Shoaib Shaikh Posted on August 13, 2017 at 7:55 am

    Thx a lot coach ERT, very nice video.

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  32. Ecrawo Posted on August 16, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    Chinese rubbers are not supposed to have high-medium throwing angle??? i.e. hurricane 3 friendship 729

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  33. tpresler Posted on August 18, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    I really relate to the Chinese game philosophy, but do you think a player which use Tensor European rubbers and Western style for many years can suddenly switch to Chinese style and switch to hard rubber?

    Do you think a Western player can make this transition after many years playing with Western equipment?

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  34. Viz muñiz Posted on August 27, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    What is the idea to buy a hard chinese rubber and boost it to make it softer and bouncier? would it not make more sense to buy then a tensor rubber?

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  35. KC karl cedrick Tuppal Posted on September 4, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    Your video is the FAKE

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  36. PingPongsMasters Posted on September 16, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    Min 4:24 this rubber are fake?

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  37. 김지원 Posted on September 16, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    I just have enrolled my translating from english to korean. please upload my korean subtitle.

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  38. Rich F Posted on October 6, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Thank you for an interesting video. I am contemplating purchasing Japanese, non-ESN, non-Tenergy rubber, such as Nexy Karis or Stiga Mantra. I like the speed and control of Stiga Calibra, but spin is lacking. Anyone have any experience with these new Japanese rubbers made by Daiki and other Japanese manufactures.

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  39. Tomas Pomej Posted on October 9, 2017 at 9:21 am

    just like any other of his videos "Chinese good, western bad " .I would even benefit from these videos if it wasn't done in this North Korean style .

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  40. Gholamreza Fathpour Posted on October 17, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    I reckon Chinese players dominance comes from their hard work and practice makes them so proficient not the Chinese rubber who knows if they were to use tenergy 05 with the same determination and discipline they would be even stronger!

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  41. JKL James Posted on October 21, 2017 at 8:05 am

    EmRatThich can you please make a video about reviewing tenergy 05

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  42. Timotei Centea Posted on October 23, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    I don't know if this is the place to ask, but I hope someone can help me
    I am buying my first blade, and I was thinking for a yasaka sweden extra with DHS 3 hurricane on both sides (red/black).
    Is this right for a beginer/intermediate looping aggressive player? Thank you!

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  43. boogieboy 007 Posted on October 24, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    What does it mean when yousay tackiness in table tennis? Hope you can enlighten me as these terms are too technical for my players to understand. Thanks in advance

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  44. TACHUN HUNG Posted on November 7, 2017 at 12:58 am

    This is the best video ever …..To perform like Hurricane you must have own power to fit Hurricane rubber .

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  45. Neša Brdža Posted on November 7, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    thank you very much 🙂

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  46. Arnav Tiwari Posted on November 17, 2017 at 11:08 am

    I agree with your video because when I used it I fee better and convinced.

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  47. Benjamin Ong Posted on November 20, 2017 at 3:37 am

    With the new poly ball 40+, should I stick to the tensor rubber or change to a harder rubber? If so, what rubber would you recommend for the backhand? Thanks.

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  48. Joe Nghiem Posted on December 8, 2017 at 1:44 am

    Thank you for the video. On this topic, I found an interesting article: https://www.google.com.vn/amp/s/thoughtsontabletennis.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/on-tacky-rubbers/amp/
    The article explains the difference between tackiness and stickiness. One of the point it makes was tacky rubber (Chinese) will generate less spin than sticky rubber given the same force. It explains the reason. It seems consistent with your reasoning when you explained that some people using Chinese rubber on the backhand as “dead rubber”.
    On the other hand, it is rather confusing to me when trying to reconcile your explanation that tacky rubber can generate more spin than non tacky rubber. Can you explain this or cite your data sources for the graphs so I can research further?

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  49. Vivero Bosque de Alimentos Posted on December 9, 2017 at 1:40 am

    Hi, can I translate to spanish?

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  50. ᄆᄂᄋᄅ Posted on January 3, 2018 at 1:39 pm

    it' interesting

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  51. Kim Gustav Posted on January 4, 2018 at 4:06 am

    Is here anybody using tacky rubber?

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  52. Your smile, our success verma Posted on January 9, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    Should I use booster in tensor rubber

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  53. Daniel Fisher Posted on January 17, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    Ok, so I have a question. I am a penholders and play exactly like wang hao does. Serve, third ball attack and then use a loop kill to move around and tire the opponent. I want to know what backhand rubber I should use because I use a hurricane 3 for forehand but still do not know what to use for backhand. Help?

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  54. Jeongwoo CHOI Posted on January 30, 2018 at 9:10 am

    My friend asked me a question about this premade bat he had. He was wondering if the product was fake because the sides of the little box around the ittf 14-013 mark on the rubber were too straight and apparently the little box's edges r supposed to be round. I dont know and im thinking u guys might be able to know. Is it fake or no? Here's the picture: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/394458169247662081/407821501056679936/IMG_0055.JPG?width=226&height=301

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  55. George Sanguinetti Posted on February 23, 2018 at 2:07 am

    Chinese us boosters on their rubber? Aren't boosters illegal?

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  56. Michael Zhuang Posted on March 14, 2018 at 11:39 am

    What do you think about using Chinese tacky topsheet on Japanese style tensor sponge?

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  57. nader koko Posted on March 24, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    I have a question who is better in fh donic baracuda or Hurricane 3 neo in the topspin

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  58. Tai Vu Duc Posted on April 2, 2018 at 9:21 am

    Em rat thich are you VietNamese?

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  59. Akioblast 95 Posted on April 2, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    You're misleading dude, I searched the original store from a Tmall link from the original website and the pictures of fake rubbers that you showed in the video in fact are original rubbers, I don't see any curvy rectangle surrounding ITTF logo, and they do sell national team rubbers that come with different thicknesses. Most of Tmall stores even JD.com sell the products with the same shape, and I checked the code in dhs-sports.com.

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  60. wholesomechiro Posted on April 11, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    Is it a good combination to put Chinese rubber on forehand of viscaria or xiom vega pro blade with zlc carbon?

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  61. Yuri Tricky Posted on April 13, 2018 at 6:25 am

    Hello, EmRatThich, could you please recommend some cheap setup for beginner to improve a technique? I saw all your videos but nothing there about something you can use at the beginning. so far I used 729 super soft with noname wooden blade. I like this rubbers but I want to improve more.

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  62. Ripa Posted on April 18, 2018 at 5:41 am

    Is dhs gold arc 8 spinny because it does'nt have tackiness but is considered as one of the most spinniest rubbers in the world

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  63. Zoster Posted on May 20, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    Couch, could You comment on sponge thickness as well? for both Chinese and tensor rubbers

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  64. Atrakis Posted on June 9, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Hello,

    I have recently bought a Chinese rubber (DHS Hurricane 3). Unfortunately, the tackiness was gone after the first training. Is this normal and what can I do against it?

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  65. Marcus Allison Posted on June 11, 2018 at 7:36 am

    Thank you for this. It was very informative. I have a very good chop. I create strong backspin on my backhand. What is a good rubber to create backspin?

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  66. tynus stanley Posted on June 12, 2018 at 5:23 pm

    Where to get DHS hurricane blue Spong..I got orange Spong is it original.

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  67. Andy Yang Posted on June 13, 2018 at 4:17 am

    I used to use DHS H3 40 degree as my forehand robber and it is good as long as you get used to it. But I hate to say that Chinese rubber is so hard to maintain its stickiness.

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  68. bob slaig Posted on July 7, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    Are we oblige to boost these rubbers ?

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  69. Pratik Jung Basnet Posted on July 11, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    Hi coach I use Inmerforce ALC blade and DHS hurricane rubber in my both forehand and backhand should I replace my backhand?

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  70. Daniel D. Posted on July 22, 2018 at 8:08 pm

    extremely good video!

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  71. Clashing Sports !! Posted on July 29, 2018 at 9:42 am

    Can we use GKI rubber for amateur level

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  72. Ahmad Fitri Posted on August 20, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    Please do butterfly timo boll cf 1000 vs dhs 3002

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  73. Francis Parada Posted on September 14, 2018 at 8:33 pm

    thank you coach for your review, i am enlighten by the video

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  74. iLoveMikuZR Posted on September 15, 2018 at 1:47 am

    Hi Coach!🤗
    I have been using RITC Faster rubber on my backhand.
    My backhand is more dominant than my forehand.
    I can feel the ball especially when driving away from table.
    I then switched to Mark V (is it tensor? ).
    BUT I couldn't feel the ball during hard loops/drives away from table.
    The ball seems to bounce back fast and don't vibrate the blade.
    Should I keep this or would you recommend another rubber?
    I am using Stiga S-5000 all wood blade. I feel like I also need to upgrade my blade.
    Any recommendation?

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  75. Eduardo Rabelo Posted on September 16, 2018 at 11:31 am

    Good.
    I liked!

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  76. Apit Sutrimo Posted on September 22, 2018 at 11:09 am

    Excuse me coach… Please help me…. What choice of rubber is suitable for Zhang Jike super ZLC blade?

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  77. Apit Sutrimo Posted on September 22, 2018 at 11:44 am

    What choice of Chinese rubber is suitable for Zhang Jike super ZLC?

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  78. Sabasten Usen Posted on October 5, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    What is the Best forehand rubber to use. I am using calibra lt

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  79. IHadToChooseThis1 Posted on October 26, 2018 at 6:04 am

    Hey I was contemplating about getting Hurricane Neo 3 but am not sure where to get originals…
    Can I trust tabletennis 11.com to have the real deal?

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  80. Sergey Smirnov Posted on October 29, 2018 at 11:48 am

    Thank you for the video! It is very interesting nd useful! Tell a bit please about the rubber 999t!!! Can an amateur use it? is it also good for a smash?

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  81. Ru eL Posted on November 30, 2018 at 9:28 am

    Hi Coach! Thank you for this informative video and just I found out I had a fake DHS Hurricane Neo after all!!! Could you please advise which legit online store to buy the mentioned rubber. Thanks for your help as always 🙂

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  82. Surya vidyadhar Donthamsetti Posted on December 5, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    (1)
    Can I use "Xiom Vega China Rubber" as my forehand rubber by replacing DHS hurricane neo 3(commercial)?,
    Why I am asking because the DHS commercial rubbers don't have the consistence tackiness, but I see that "Xiom Vega China Rubber" have good tackiness for long time.

    (2)
    When I use Hard chines rubbers, do I need to remove and past the rubber every few days? And may I know which glue is better to past hard chines rubber ?

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  83. Surya vidyadhar Donthamsetti Posted on December 20, 2018 at 4:45 am

    When I use Hard chines rubbers, do I need to remove and past the rubber every few days? And may I know which glue is better to past hard chines rubber ?

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  84. Abhi Vashistha Posted on January 28, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    But timo boll uses tensor rubber and currently he is world no. 2

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  85. Jewshua Does Random Things Posted on February 16, 2019 at 6:03 pm

    I am is the intermediate stage and I use chinese rubber for Penh old but my coach wants me to use tensor.

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  86. andrem7th Posted on March 23, 2019 at 9:58 pm

    isnt boosting illegal now?

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  87. WiTTeNx Posted on May 6, 2019 at 9:35 pm

    reverse penholder here, i play with donic bluefire m1 backhand and DHS neo H3 on forehand on a Double FIsh STx carbon blade, but used to have donic bluefire m3 on FH, had to adapt specially on serves, feel is different, loops are easier IMO, just totally made a difference as i am a hard hitter, and in exchanges first attack was on the table but 2nd and 3rd were harder to keep on, but with Neo H3 i can just keep going and harder i hit, spinier it gets and stays on the table.

    – a proud canadian RPH player 🙂

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  88. Phan Minh Posted on June 16, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    Anh là ng việt ak

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  89. Fernando Reta Posted on June 23, 2019 at 3:39 am

    where i can buy booster for my rubbers?

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  90. Fernando Reta Posted on June 23, 2019 at 3:44 am

    i use a xiom vega pro for fh and bh , they are great , nice spin, speed and control, i will change mi fh rubber by a hurrican neo 8

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  91. gazza listermint Posted on August 4, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    I'm playing H2. Very hard crisp as a nut. My backhand counters are spot on. Love the rubber. Prob not so amazing on bh. I use pips on one side.

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  92. Vito Calabrese Posted on August 13, 2019 at 2:36 am

    I would like to put the Yinhe Big Dipper eraser on the right side of my Donic Defplay Senso,

    What do you think about Coach
    ? I'm a chopper

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  93. Kan CK Posted on September 5, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    But top player like Lin Yun Ju uses the Zhang Jike super ZLC, Tenergy 05 and Dignics 05. These are all high tension rubbers (B.t.w. 'tensor' is a trademark held by a German company. Butterfly's high tension rubbers are not tensors) and the blade is hard and fast . He beat top Chinese players before (ma long & fan zhengdong)
    If it is that bad to use hard blade and high tension rubbers, why does he do it? One of his coach even taught Zhang jike before, it can't be that his coach doesn't know better than you do.

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  94. ITS MY VIEW OF GaMING Posted on September 23, 2019 at 6:33 pm

    Hii emratthich sir… I really appreciate your videos. And sir i want to progress as fast as possible , sir i am a progressing player , sir i am very very much confused, please provide best set up for me sir .

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  95. Charles Olan Posted on October 9, 2019 at 2:15 pm

    How can you say that it is a high or low throw angle?

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  96. Jacob Sobel Posted on October 18, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    So why do pro European players such as Timo and Dima who have been world no1's use Tenergy when they clearly have enough skill to be able to use the national Chinese rubbers?

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  97. boneyblade Posted on October 21, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    Where can I buy original "DHS H3 Neo commercial" from? I am in UK. I bought one from Bribar in UK but the tackiness is not there. Suggest me couple of Chinese websites that are legit please. Thanks in advance.

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  98. Rey Debad Posted on November 12, 2019 at 5:39 am

    when he said, pro players use chinese rubbers. He meant only chinese pro players.

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  99. Raging Gab Posted on November 20, 2019 at 8:44 am

    hurricane 3 national is over 100$ (cost more than even dignics 05) and provincal with a harder blue sponge is 85 dollars (more expensive than Tenergy 05)

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  100. Jon Neville Posted on November 28, 2019 at 11:49 pm

    These videos are the best I've seen on You Tube regarding TT education. They make a lot of sense, and the information is factual, not guided by product marketing.
    Well done.

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