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Chinese rubber vs European rubber to Forehand Smash in Table Tennis


Welcome to the channel of coach EmRatThich. Today I will discuss why top Chinese players
switch to the red side (Tenergy red rubber) to forehand smash the ball. As explained in my previous video “the truth
about Chinese rubbers”, you understand the characteristics of Chinese rubber (DHS Hurricane
black rubber). These rubbers have a very low throw angle. They are also very hard and less bouncy than
European rubbers. Ma Long and Zhang Jike use hard Chinese rubbers
on Forehand to counterloop the topspin ball easily. Look at this slow motion, you can see that
Zhang Jike counter topspin the ball on the Forehand side, and the ball is very direct
and linear. It’s difficult to do that with a softer and
bouncy rubber. However, to smash the ball, top Chinese players
prefer to switch to the red rubber to smash the ball. Why? Look, Zhang Jike switched to the red side
to smash the ball. Chinese rubber on Forehand side (black) is
very hard and less bouncy. This type of rubber is used to power loop
the ball, which requires a long and full stroke. You need to “carry” the ball in a long distance. Hard rubber will transfer most of the energy
to the ball and make the ball go in a precision and linear trajectory. However, to smash the ball, you can’t do such
a long stroke. It’s a sudden contact with the ball, so it’s
better to use a bouncy rubber (red side). Bouncy rubber has shorter dwell time, so the
ball will leave the rubber faster. That’s why they prefer to switch to the red
side to smash the ball. The smashed ball will be faster so it’s harder
to defend this ball. So remember, hard Chinese rubber is good for
long and powerful forehand stroke (loop, counter loop, and loop kill the ball). Bouncy European rubber is good on the backhand
side, faster on a quick and short stroke. You can see my previous videos to understand
these characteristics. Now, I let you focus on the moment when Zhang
Jike rotates his racket to the red side. See you, EmRatThich.

David Frank

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37 COMMENTS

  1. Maxat Nukhayev Posted on February 26, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    Thank you Coach for your videos!
    You always say "hard chinese rubbers", but how exactly hard should they be? 39 degrees? 40? 45?
    Another unclear moment is sponge thickness: how to choose between 1.9 , 2.0 and 2.2 mm?

    I am a club player, who has just learned how to loop consistently. Following your advice on control/feeling blade I got Yinhe W6 blade and currently choosing rubber. I settled on 999 super 999t rubber for forehand and can't choose thickness and hardness, can you give your advice on that?
    Also, what would be the best backhand rubber for this combo? Based on this video I guess it should be something springy, europian style rubber. I don't have much money as a student so please consider budget options only.

    Thanks for your help!

    Reply
  2. Moon Bilguun Posted on February 28, 2017 at 11:44 am

    wow i did not even realize he switches sides on smash nice video

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  3. Philippe H Posted on February 28, 2017 at 12:38 pm

    thank for the advice, i play with tenergy in backhand and huricane in forehand, but when it come to smash with forehand, the throw angle of huricane is so low, that i smash often in the net.
    In the past, i had tenergy in forehand and i didn't have so much difficulty to smash.
    It may seem normal to switch, but before this video i didn't realize this and now i know why it's good to switch and smash with tenergy.
    merci EmRatThich coach!

    Reply
  4. N8 Posted on February 28, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    Excellent insight! Is this still a practice by players such as Ma Long and Xu Xin who have switched to a chinese rubber on their backhand? It would be an interesting way to note if Ma Long's backhand chinese rubber is bouncy or just typical chinese rubber

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  5. Miguel Garzón Posted on February 28, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    Greetings from Guayaquil, Ecuador. Thanks for you useful videos. Question: What are the blades they are using?

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  6. lavous kebaya Posted on February 28, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    Ma long now use chinese rubber on both sides, so he doesnt have to switch side/twiddle. do you know why he does that?

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  7. adel yacoub Posted on February 28, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    Another great video , thanks a lot
    I wish one day you put all that valuable information in a book and I promise I will be the first to have it 😀😀😀👍👍👍

    Reply
  8. umang malhotra Posted on February 28, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    Hi Coach, Can you please make a video on Fan Zhendong's Backhand technique (loop, loop kill) and his famous directional proactive block.

    Reply
  9. artmaroof90 Posted on February 28, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    can u tell me which side is better to use for loop in Butterfly timoboll 2000

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  10. Julien Ho Posted on February 28, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    Hi coach, Tenergy rubbers are japanese or european rubbers?

    Reply
  11. Vinzenz Gaming Posted on March 1, 2017 at 1:48 am

    2 videos publish in a day. wow. great share coach. thank you for the knowledge u share. more power

    Reply
  12. JCMC777 Posted on March 1, 2017 at 4:32 am

    ive been using for 6 months already DHS Hurricane 3 Neo on Forhand and Tenergy 60 on backhand. I then developed a relaxed stroke and began practicing alone hiting like the chinese kids. Ive been playing for 4 years on club and in 6 months I improved even more! thankyou coach!

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  13. Philippe H Posted on March 1, 2017 at 11:31 am

    thank for the advice, i play with tenergy in backhand and huricane in forehand, but when it come to smash with forehand, the throw angle of huricane is so low, that i smash often in the net.
    In the past, i had tenergy in forehand and i didn't have so much difficulty to smash.
    It may seem normal to switch, but before this video i didn't realize this and now i know why it's good to switch and smash with tenergy.
    merci EmRatThich coach!

    Reply
  14. adel yacoub Posted on March 2, 2017 at 12:08 am

    Is it right to boost a factory tuned rubber ( specially Chinese rubbers ) and if yes can you please tell me what is the best booster to apply ? Thanks for your help

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  15. Massaphan Posted on March 4, 2017 at 4:20 am

    I'm pretty sure that the softer rubber causes a higher throw angle because it's softer and stays in contact with the ball longer. It would make more sense that the softer rubber would have a longer dwell time which would give the ball more spin and more control. With the amount of power that goes into the swing, it would be safer to hit with the side that gives you better control. Contrary to what you said in the video, the smashing strokes are very long and seems to give the ball more spin which is why it's harder to return.

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  16. Chris Yang Posted on March 4, 2017 at 5:28 pm

    Thank you for sharing this.

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  17. Max Chang Posted on March 5, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    European Rubbers are shit. Only DHS and Butterfly make good rubbers

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  18. 【☯】ɈẨƇƘ【♞】 Posted on March 8, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    I'm waiting the video when you will explain differences beteween DHS 39°,40° and 41° 😀

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  19. richrf01 Posted on March 17, 2017 at 12:26 am

    Great video! Thanks.

    Reply
  20. Cariem Said Posted on March 19, 2017 at 10:51 am

    Hi EmRatThich, I have a question: How many times can I boost a (chinese) rubber (e.g. neo skyline III) until it's wasted? Can I spoil the rubber when I boost it too many times?

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  21. Duane Capulla Posted on April 11, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    What cheap tenergy 05 alternative is good?

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  22. Nils Devine Posted on May 11, 2017 at 12:24 pm

    Is it true that European rubbers are faster in red and Chinese rubbers are tackier in black? Has this been tested?

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  23. amitabh som Posted on June 9, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    following playing style of MA long is good for a person having slow foot work

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  24. amitabh som Posted on June 9, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    following playing style of MA long is good for a person having slow foot work

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  25. René Molitoris Posted on July 9, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Hello Coach, first of all, I want to thank you for your effort and professional advice,it is very helpful and inspiring. I am thinking about switching to Chinese rubber on my forehand. My blade is Andro Treiber Z and I am FH dominant player and I love to loop and topspin the ball. Right now I play with Andro Rasanter R47 on my FH, but find that when I want to add more power to my loop, the ball goes over the table. You mentioned that Chinese rubbers have lower throw angle but when I looked at the chart on tabletennisdb, almost all Chinese rubbers are listed as with high throw angle and I am a bit confused now. My choice would be the 729 Battle 2. Can you please give some advice? Thank you and best regards from Slovakia, René.

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  26. Rolly Casuga Jr. Posted on August 3, 2017 at 9:02 am

    For you coach which is better the regular h3 or the h3 neo version?

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  27. Gourab Kar Posted on August 6, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    Hi Coach, can you please review Sanwei Target National rubber. I am planning to buy one for both backhand and forehand

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  28. AllAbout RICKY Posted on September 24, 2017 at 4:31 am

    I use national hurricane 3 both sides , but the backhand I use orange sponge. What us the difference between hurricane 3 national blue sponge and hurricane 3 national blue sponge ??
    I'm very happy if you do a video about the difference of blue sponge and orange sponge

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  29. 똠양꿍 Posted on October 28, 2017 at 1:35 am

    Zhang Jike never used tenergy 05 in his career… He used tenergy 64 pre-2011 and since then he has tenergy 80 on his backhand.

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  30. rafeequllah ehsanullah Posted on November 12, 2017 at 3:52 am

    If i am a backhand dominant player should i use the same setup as zhang jike

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  31. Airport Operations Specialist Posted on November 12, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    This video is very helpful. I am switching to H3 on forehand tomorrow. Will be applying what I learned about it here. Thanks!

    Reply
  32. Davi Santiago Posted on February 10, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    Hello EmRatThich, I'm a brazilian penholder player and my setup is Yasaka European Ma Lin Extra Offensive with DHS TG Skyline 2 NEO with booster and Butterfly Roundell on backhand. It will be better If I smash the ball using the Roundell rubber? For a penholder is difficult to twiddle the racket and comeback if my opponent attack with a counter topspin. So, what can I do?

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  33. Paul Raymond Posted on March 7, 2018 at 8:32 am

    sir which hurricane three does chinese players use

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  34. Sudhakar Babras Posted on May 21, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    Hi coach…
    I am learning from ur teaching, I am getting lot of knowledge from u…….
    Really I respect you lot ….
    After reading most of the comments , I would like to say that the the DHS rubbers have no life they are good for few days or couple of months .Since last four years I am using DHS Hurricane- 3-Neo & Hurricane-8-; Skyline -2/3 Neo but after few days or months The Spong &outer pimpled in rubbers get separated. This has happened not only one case but number of them .Some of friends also have the problems …….
    0n the other hand Tenergy-series or DONIC Blue Fire series are much more better than DHS rubbers according to me.I am using them ….
    this is my experience so far as rubbers & I can say that the Butterfly Blades are too good chiefly Timo Ball, Viscaria which I am using …

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  35. viborrr Posted on August 15, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    What are these comparisons worth if (as you said) the commercially available Chinese rubbers are totally different from the ones Chinese players actually use?

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  36. lousyfication Posted on September 10, 2018 at 3:12 am

    I am not sure about the dwell time of rubbers depending on soft or hard sponge as it is explained in this video.
    All the same I like your content on Youtube a lot and your thoughts on the top players are always welcome!

    Reply
  37. Alejo Gonzalez Posted on December 10, 2018 at 3:05 pm

    Hi coach. One question, the last time i saw Ma Long's equipment, he was using a chinese rubber on Bh and Fh. Chinese rubber is ok for bh then?

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