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Contact Point for Maximum Backspin | Table Tennis | PingSkills


Hi, I’m Alois Rosario, today we’re going to
talk about the hitting point on your racquet to get more spin on your backspin serve. The two critical factors to generate spin
are firstly the brushing contact you get with the ball, and secondly how fast that contact
is. This hitting point is going to help us with
the second of those and this is to generate more speed. The point we’re looking for to contact the
racquet is down near the end away from the handle. Why is that? Because that part is
moving faster than the part closer to your hand or to the handle. Let’s have a look at it. Your hand is doing
the moving. Now close to your hand is moving from there to there. So about that much. But
let’s have a look at how much this part down here is moving. It’s going from there all
the way to there. So it’s moving that much in the same amount of time so it has to be
moving faster and that’s where it’s going to help us to generate more spin. So close to my hand is moving from about 0mm
there up to about 220. So it’s moving about 220mm. Down at the end of my racquet, it’s
going from 0 way off the scale and even a lot further past. So the end of my racquet
is obviously moving a lot further in the same amount of time. So therefore it’s going to
generate a lot more speed and more spin. So after doing some serves you can see where
the ball has been hitting on my racquet, down near the end of the racquet. If you’re interested in learning more about
serving check out the serving secrets lessons at PingSkills.com.

David Frank

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82 COMMENTS

  1. 7u6e Posted on August 3, 2014 at 7:14 am

    Never thought about it. Thank you!

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  2. igniteram1 Posted on August 3, 2014 at 7:16 am

    Thanks, it makes a lot of sense now -hitting the ball at the end of the racquet to generate more back spin.

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  3. Aamir Dakhani Posted on August 3, 2014 at 7:26 am

    How do you get these ideas

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  4. MTAlAli Posted on August 3, 2014 at 8:17 am

    finally you're back

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  5. Gilles Soulier Posted on August 3, 2014 at 8:21 am

    Hi Alois, do you advise to use the forearm speed?

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  6. Jeff M Posted on August 3, 2014 at 8:29 am

    Thanks for the video! It does make sense! Just a question though, I was told that if I want to serve short backspin serve (im holding penhold), then I need to make contact with the ball at the upper end of the racket (closer to handle) instead of lower end (further away from handle). Is that incorrect?
    To make a short serve, do you just need to make the first bounce closer to the net? so whether I contact the ball closer to handle or further away from handle shouldn't matter?

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  7. gptsx jr Posted on August 3, 2014 at 8:30 am

    hi alois,
    please do plastic ball review

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  8. Gustav Mårdby Posted on August 3, 2014 at 8:33 am

    I have never thought about that. Thanks! 🙂

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  9. Xavi Gordillo Posted on August 3, 2014 at 11:01 am

    Wow thanks for the tip! We missed your vids!!

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  10. Nutelko8 Posted on August 3, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    What rubbers are you using?

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  11. EchoDreams Posted on August 3, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Very interresting detail. I did never thought about this and I've always had some difficulties with the backspin serve. I'll try it in the next weeks 🙂

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  12. Francesco Laudicina Posted on August 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    Excellent Video!!! Really appreciate the final summary!
    Ping Skill you are the best!

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  13. harol artola Posted on August 3, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    nice video, thanks.

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  14. iL3G4CY Posted on August 3, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    I am a lefty.what serve would u suggest I shud practice (I use penhold n shake hand)

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  15. The Spaz Man Posted on August 3, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Thanks!  I've been playing a lot in the breakroom at work, and I developed a long backspin serve that, for months now, has been giving people serious trouble.  However, because the serve goes off the end of the table after the 2nd bounce, some of my co-workers are now being able to attack the serve with a topspin loop.  I now realize this is because I'm focused more on control, contacting the ball more toward the handle so I can aim it, and that's causing it to go longer than I want.  I'm going to have to put some practice in hitting it with the further end of the bat, with a finer brushing motion, and getting it to bounce twice on their side, so they can't attack the serve.

    I wouldn't have put that together as quickly if I hadn't seen this video.  Thank you Alois and Jeff, there's always good advice on this channel!

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  16. manu de hanoi Posted on August 3, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    interesting tip, never tried that far on the racket. Teacher also insists that the wrist should be very relaxed to get the most spin spin with the least speed (cause too much speed on a backspin makes the ball go out)

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  17. Roman Adar Posted on August 3, 2014 at 11:45 pm

    Great advice as usual, but what about someone serving using backhand side of the racket? Thanks for sharing.

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  18. Rems Grinšteins Posted on August 4, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Hi, PingSkills!
    Realy nice channel. I'd realy would like to hear some more advanced stuff with more examples. Also, is it me, or you could increase the pace of the videos. Like A LOT. I am sure you have a lot to teach us.

    Reply
  19. Neil Gurnani Posted on August 4, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Thank you for the great advice! Your advice has helped me improve my game so much. And you definitely deserve way more subscribers than you have!

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  20. mcted98 Posted on August 4, 2014 at 7:33 pm

    very helpfully video ;D

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  21. 24 Frames/Sec Posted on August 5, 2014 at 5:38 am

    Interesting. Would this tip extend to FH and BH looping if wrist action is introduced?

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  22. Remi Wba4life Posted on August 5, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    Were have you guys been

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  23. Shivam Goenka Posted on August 6, 2014 at 1:01 am

    Hi pingskills , I feel that when the contact point is near to the handle , I we can do a short serve effictively.

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  24. fabio ivan Tula Posted on August 6, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Very usefull video.
    Very clear english, important point for who that the english in no our first language!
    Fabio from ARGENTINA:

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  25. Abod M Mahrous Posted on August 8, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    Thanks for making an Arabic CC

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  26. Laphonso Talento Posted on August 8, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    I quite cant get how to do spin especially sidespin how is it and my service is like chop down

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  27. Laphonso Talento Posted on August 8, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    But i have food service maybe wrong handle because im not good at shifting hands

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  28. Peter G Posted on August 8, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    Useful and nice video ! Keep going like that
    Thanks !

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  29. Stephen Garrett Posted on August 9, 2014 at 9:58 am

    The slow motion shots are superb clearly showing a very good technique. Another great and informative video.

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  30. Astrostorm Posted on September 22, 2014 at 2:30 am

    you guys are awesome
    i got a donic bluefire m3 and its awesome 🙂

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  31. Christian Haugaard Posted on September 28, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Where is the contact point for max sidespin

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  32. Ralph P Posted on November 17, 2014 at 1:55 am

    wow this is incredibly useful for me to understand what makes my chops and backspin serves effective or not…..

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  33. muntecy Posted on December 7, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Hi Coach Alois, Does this also apply when you are doing a forehand or backhand loop?

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  34. Luc Gitarist Posted on February 12, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    this a correct video…I teach it also this way when I give training

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  35. Anonymous Beast Posted on March 15, 2015 at 7:45 am

    should i try doing this with all my serves?

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  36. chrsangl Posted on March 15, 2015 at 1:21 pm

    i heard that  in most backspin serves you can get alot of backspin by contacting the ball in the front of the bat is this contact point better, im kinda confused ?

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  37. omgtim Posted on April 22, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    I literally found this out today, but thanks for the video anyway 😀

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  38. Itskelvinn Posted on June 18, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    You did not have to spend that much time explaining how the end of the bat moves more. Its common sense.

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  39. Adam Ye Posted on July 27, 2015 at 4:53 am

    I need some practice on my underspin serves…

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  40. The Unknown Posted on August 8, 2015 at 10:50 am

    Just started playing table tennis. Learnt a new thing watching this video. Cheers.

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  41. Rye Leon Posted on August 14, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    I need help for backhand cause I'm using it all time…….sorry for bad english

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  42. Ismat Saeed Posted on November 22, 2015 at 7:40 am

    i want to know that jp sonic is a good rubber or not

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  43. Ismat Saeed Posted on November 22, 2015 at 8:58 am

    i want to use it

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  44. Ismat Saeed Posted on November 22, 2015 at 8:59 am

    because here in pakistan it is really famous rubber

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  45. Adam Olaso Posted on January 2, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Very informative. I've been asking around and most of the players in my club (actually all) says that I should hit it at the side of the bat not at the top. The side that contacts the ball the first. Hitting it at the other side will not give a fast spin they say.

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  46. ranjan Rai Posted on January 9, 2016 at 4:37 am

    Hey please couch . I am a district level player . I can't do backspin serve but I am perfect in side back serve

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  47. Saksham Paudel Posted on March 25, 2016 at 11:22 am

    can you please teach how to sisespin serve

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  48. MokshaNow Posted on June 26, 2016 at 5:24 am

    Thank you very much indeed! Very clear, concise and helpful. Warm regards. Cheers!

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  49. divyansh agarwal Posted on July 6, 2016 at 6:34 am

    I have tried this over and over again but I am not getting much backspin…the ball does not come back to the net…can you please help me with this

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  50. divyansh agarwal Posted on July 6, 2016 at 6:44 am

    I have a pan Asia rubber on my racquet

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  51. divyansh agarwal Posted on July 6, 2016 at 6:49 am

    It is quite grippy…I think I should try to improve my contact point and serve action a bit…thanks for your help and all those great vedios

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  52. הוنᄀバコᄂᄃɸฅจـهـ母表จาøนحöܠʢܢחق한국어י Posted on July 7, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    The 2 most important factors towards generating significant spin is 1. Maintaining the exact same plane of the rubber surface during the entire brushing motion – no wobbles! and 2. Acceleration – as you progress from back-swing, to the slicing motion towards the ball just before contact,, SLOW DOWN as much as possible and then EXPLODE from there. Spin generated is proportional to the difference in velocity just at contact point and the velocity during the brushing that follows (acceleration). First, learn to generate spin off the table. Initially, learn to impart spin by using waist and arm. Only involve the wrist once you can generate decent spin using the waist and arm. Once you get the feel of the ball sinking into rubber from off the table brushing practice, you can think about serving at the table, controlling height, length and variation. The serve is just too hard to learn by combining all elements at the same time – you need to master components of serve in piecemeal fashion.

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  53. Rei Doge Posted on August 24, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    Could you redo this video with a mid level or worn paddle. Not the pro not the plain plastic face or wood face but the mid level paddle. Your really good but the fact that you have an awesome paddle that grips like a monster helps too. I'm getting my behind handed to me in the office and I'd like to know what kind of backspin I could aim to achieve with worn mid-level paddles. Your help in this would be much appreciated, thank you for all of your content.

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  54. I am a Nigga Posted on September 13, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    I can't hear your name what is it

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  55. Thadson Posted on December 10, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    I have to use the red side of the racket for spinning right?

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  56. MeroZz Posted on December 23, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    I am using the vega Pro on my fh too😏💪

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  57. artmaroof90 Posted on January 15, 2017 at 11:37 am

    so just like cricket eyes should remain on ball

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  58. Gaming with AB Posted on January 20, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    coach my question is how we can reverse the ball back to us?

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  59. Yash Garg Posted on January 31, 2017 at 9:18 am

    this is brilliant! thanks Alois

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  60. Manny GT Posted on February 2, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    wow uve reached 100k subs

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  61. sasikanth malladi Posted on February 3, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    And you can intentionally hit right next to your thumb for a lower amount of spin as a variation. Give the opponent two consistent ones and vary the third one and you'll have an advantage!

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  62. Harsh Mane Posted on March 7, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    How to do backspin serve

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  63. Nilay Kulkarni Posted on March 20, 2017 at 9:48 am

    Hi.. I have a question…. What is the best rubber for the backspin..? My backhand game is not offensive much and usually end up doing back hand chop rallies with opponent.. my goal is to use powerful backspin to end the rallies using above technique and a good rubber.. ( I am using mark V currently)

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  64. Ahmed Fawzy Posted on March 22, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    Ping skills alois what kind of blade do you use

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  65. DuskGlade Posted on May 26, 2017 at 9:00 am

    Does this also apply to topspin?

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  66. Lucas Bargetto Posted on July 20, 2017 at 5:25 am

    Do u think a ref would call that as a foul? He tossed the ball from a ways out to right next to him, not too straight up from that angle 😬

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  67. Dev Varshney Posted on August 22, 2017 at 10:56 am

    sir can u plz make the video on a heavy backspin serve

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  68. Dev Varshney Posted on August 22, 2017 at 10:56 am

    and your videos is amazing sir

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  69. Taha rinyo Posted on November 4, 2017 at 9:02 am

    I thought you had to throw the ball up vertically

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  70. Sandesh Shetty Posted on November 4, 2017 at 10:24 am

    While serving How to get the second bounce close to the net

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  71. Chan Felix Posted on January 15, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    Oh, THAT‘s why my spin isn‘t powerful. I always hit the ball at the centre of the bat

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  72. Игорь Шохин Posted on May 19, 2018 at 5:57 pm

    Отличное видео. Много раз видел подобную подачу. Но такое детальное описание впервые. 👍

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  73. HANDMADE Posted on June 1, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Its a illegal serve coz he is throwing ball backwards
    And it is illegal to push ball backwards in serve

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  74. Ruslan Safin Posted on June 12, 2018 at 9:27 am

    thank you for a great hint! 🙂

    Reply
  75. Jugal Jajodia Posted on June 16, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    You are great . It helped me very much!thanks

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  76. mfarrukhiqbal1 Posted on July 23, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    That makes perfect sense thank you so much i have been so ignorant …. the best of your videos works like a lever the farther you get greater the leverage

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  77. SkyreeXScalabar Posted on October 12, 2018 at 3:39 pm

    illegal ball toss

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  78. emma colney Posted on March 13, 2019 at 2:19 pm

    nice video it helped me a lot

    Reply
  79. Mohammed AlShalabi Posted on July 19, 2019 at 11:01 pm

    You know his giving out a tutorial when gets out his ruler😆

    Reply
  80. 3D Workshop Posted on October 3, 2019 at 12:57 pm

    I've taught myself how to play ping pong with my friend, but now this helps even more than just practicing

    Reply
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