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Forehand Topspin Against Backspin | Table Tennis | PingSkills


Hi, I’m Alois Rosario from PingSkills. Today
we’re going to talk to you about the forehand topspin off backspin. This is one of the most critical strokes in
a game of table tennis because it’s your chance to convert a defensive rally into an attacking
rally. The three things we need to think about, like
with all of our strokes at PingSkills are the feet position, the start position, and
your finish position. So let’s first have a look at your feet position. Your feet position
needs to be nice and wide with your knees bent. You can still be quite square to the
table. If you do happen to get a little bit more time you can turn slightly more but basically
let’s think about a nice square on position with your knees nice and bent. The start position is with your bat around
about knee high. Have your bat open so that you can lift the backspin. The contact still needs to be a brushing action
so that you are generating the topspin. Then you follow through and finish with your bat
up above your eye level with a 90 degree angle here and a 90 degree angle here. So the stroke is very similar to the forehand
topspin against block but the main difference is that we are starting lower, finishing higher,
and your stroke is more vertical. So with more backspin Jeff’s stroke becomes
more vertical so he can lift the backspin over the net. With less backspin he can come more forward.
Still starting quite low but finishing more forward. So with heavy backspin, vertical. Less backspin,
more forward. Heavy backspin, vertical. Less backspin more forward.

David Frank

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70 COMMENTS

  1. Roman Adar Posted on February 22, 2015 at 6:14 am

    Great video as ususal and thanks for sharing with us TT enthusiasts. Just wanted to add that it would be easier for a long shot ball, but what about a shorter ball closer to the net?

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  2. Mizu Gaming Posted on February 22, 2015 at 6:55 am

    excelent guide!!!

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  3. Harihara Sundar Posted on February 22, 2015 at 7:08 am

    @PingSkills 
    Fantastic video jeff & alois. You guys are doing a lot of good work here in sharing your TT knowledge with the rest of us. Keep up the good work. Can you make a video about forehand topspin against side spin. 

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  4. PingSkills Posted on February 22, 2015 at 7:57 am

    Thanks for the kind words about our videos Harihara Sundar. We'll add your suggestion to our list of videos to make.

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  5. Abdelrahman Ehab Posted on February 22, 2015 at 9:36 am

    Please Coach What Is Your Compination Blade And 2 Rubbers !

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  6. Ardi Beqiri Posted on February 22, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    Great video guys! You guys are the best!

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  7. krakenblast Posted on February 22, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    Recorded with iphone 6?

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  8. TheToXaS112 Posted on February 22, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    Nice video! Now , could you help me with one thing , might even be a good video idea. I've been playing table tennis for 5 years now and recently I feel like I'm losing my form and I've been playing worse and worse. Any suggestions what to do?

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  9. Kage Posted on February 22, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    It would be helpful if you could show us how to do the forehand tomahawk serve.

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  10. Jiecheng Zhang Posted on February 22, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    Can you guys do a vid on BH against backspin. This would help a lot. 
    Thanks!

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  11. PingSkills Posted on February 23, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Hi Jiecheng Zhang,

    We already have a video on that. You can find it on our YouTube channel or on our website under the strokes & techniques section of our Lessons page.

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  12. Dieter Verhofstadt Posted on March 10, 2015 at 9:47 am

    Hi guys

    If I compare Jeff's stroke with that of some Chinese pro teaching videos, what I observe is that the pro will let his forearm drop so that it almost hangs vertically and then they will rotate about the elbow while performing the weight transfer. Jeff's elbow remains fairly hooked and the rotation mostly comes from the upper body and shoulder. Is this just a difference in style or an optical illusion or is either technique more effective than the other?

    Thanks

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  13. Anirudh Verma Posted on March 14, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Is it ok to keep your wrist bend while forehand topsin or we should keep it flat
    i keep my wrist bend too much while forehand topspin

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  14. Mike D Posted on May 1, 2015 at 7:45 am

    I have zero confidence in this shot. I practice the starting and finishing positions, body rotations and footwork each time at the club and it feels fine, but in practice drills I don't connect at all on probably two thirds of the balls. Earlier tonight at the club I wondered if my playing height is still too high off the table. I'm fairly tall at 6'5 (195cm – credit to Google translate) but I do squat down during my swings, to the point where any more feels like I will be immobile. Anyways, thankyou Alois and Jeff for the awesome tutorials!

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  15. Taimur Ali Posted on June 26, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    Hello 🙂 This is one of my fav shot in the game, but some time when I play it goes further out of the table if you you could point me what I am doing wrong?

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  16. sk googoo Posted on July 4, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    Luv your vids-but can you also please put more slo-mo as well to see action breakdown of strokes,etc…-that would be fantastic:) Keep up the great work-appreciate it!

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  17. Bhushan Takwani Posted on July 11, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    sir You are doing a great job..Thanks
    I would like to see Topspins in running game where the length and direction of ball is not fixed.
    Can you please share some vids

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  18. Pablo Trabaja Posted on September 4, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    Muchas gracias por los excelentes videos, son motivadores e ilustrativos. Me han ayudado a mejorar como tenimesista.

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  19. Tom Wei Posted on September 23, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    How would you attack a high lob with backspin? I seem to hit too flat and it goes straight down.

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  20. FreeIndia FreeIndia Posted on September 24, 2015 at 4:59 pm

    Nice Guide Sir, I got have problem when I Play topspin(more often in backhand) (If I use wrist to brush the ball,my shot goes wrong,but If don't use of wrist the to brush the ball shot goes right but in this ball don't get brushing properly).
    So please sir tell me can I use the wrist to brush the ball?

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  21. Fardad Posted on November 18, 2015 at 11:49 am

    Superb!
    That's always my mistake.
    Thank you very much.
    I'll never forget this:
    "Heavy backspin, Vertical; Less backspin, more Forward"

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  22. Rehan Riaz Posted on November 21, 2015 at 10:49 am

    my top spin's ball doesn't spin sideways left or right , it just goes on spin straightway
    after hitting the opponents table it goes on straight rather than deviating right or left

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  23. Farzana Ibrahim Posted on December 23, 2015 at 4:23 pm

    i have watched almost all your videos and need to thank you for awsome guidence

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  24. satya1993ctc Posted on January 2, 2016 at 7:43 am

    wow sir u are great .

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  25. Three Super Kids Posted on February 23, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    I am really watching all videos uploaded since six months from now. my play has been dramatically changed. many thanks for your great efforts and support in all sessions introduced. I can say that ur videos are the best for learning all the basics of all play styles. thx

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  26. Lopan Posted on February 24, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    Thanks so much for these videos! A group of friends and I started an informal table tennis club a couple months back. 3 tables in a studio space and about 12 semi-regulars. We were all typical, average, dozen or so games a year players, (with drunken marathons back in college) but have now been playing a couple nights a week for a few hours each night. Lately, we have been watching your videos on spin techniques, serves, etc. I have such a hard time returning backspin balls. I finally stopped hitting most of them into the net, but now I am going way too high with them and then I am immediately forced to block the oncoming attack. I've gotten fairly decent at blocking because of this, hahaha. Anyway, I guess I will work on returning the backspin low and short before trying to add any attacking…. Anywho, forgive my rambling personal story, I just wanted to say I really appreciate these videos! They have really helped me up my game!

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  27. Arman Handa Posted on May 8, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    Would it be easier to execute this stroke and get it over the net with a high throw angle rubber?
    I most often end up smacking the ball into the net!
    Thanks

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  28. Alejandro - Alex Egusquiza Posted on May 14, 2016 at 4:31 am

    love all of your videos

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  29. Enes Pasha Posted on May 15, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    hello coach i have a question some of players are serving and while they serving they are attracting or putting their leg to the ground u know i dont know how to explain that its like shooting ur leg to the ground and my question is what is the advantage of that and coach as you know there are many videos about forehand backhand topspins but i didnt see any backhand topspin from the table which many players do it like fan Z.D and others can u make a video for us please and if u remember i have asked u a question about forehand and u answered me then u said let me know if it will work so yes it works and thanks for info.

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  30. kaivalya arora Posted on August 16, 2016 at 11:36 am

    wow! superb video. Every skill in table tennis can be learnt from your videos.I frequently watch your videos to improve my game.I am thankful to you for providing such wonderful table tennis lessons.But i have a question.Do we have to hold the racquet with a soft hand or a tight hand?

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  31. Omar mohamed Posted on September 1, 2016 at 1:55 am

    Thanks for all your videos. I am really getting better with every video i watch and i am really thankful to you guys.

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  32. Chitra Prasanna Posted on September 21, 2016 at 2:37 am

    Superb video

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  33. Ashvin Karnani Posted on September 24, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    its very learning video

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  34. Arkadi Danielyan Posted on September 30, 2016 at 2:19 am

    question. I noticed that you don't swing with your hand. like your elbow stays 90 degree during all the length of the shot. is it good to do that or I need to open my hand before the shot and the. close it as I swing up? thanks for the answer

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  35. Abdus Samad Abdur Rasheed Posted on October 11, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    awesome vid

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  36. Rocky s Posted on October 14, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    I can lift the ball against backspin fairly easily. However, my problem is it doesn't have enough pace and gets driven back at me. How do I add pace and lift at the same time?

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  37. Viktor Stoikov Posted on October 27, 2016 at 11:13 am

    hope i got such a couch

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  38. Neeraj Pulla Posted on November 2, 2016 at 12:11 am

    im trying what u told … bt nt able to put the ball over the net …do u think it problem with d bat ? …i use a gki offensive xx bat

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  39. Xan XUS Posted on November 14, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    penhold grip also same?

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  40. Charles Monroe Posted on November 25, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    Alois/Jeff: This is an excellent tutorial. The forehand topspin (against any stroke) is perhaps the weakest part of my game. My forehand counter-hit and block are effective; however, neither stroke allows me to take the offensive. Also, any "loop" I successfully hit is either too slow or too high which allows my opponent to seize the advantage. I look forward to practicing what you've suggested…

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  41. zeion Posted on December 10, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    can i use this if they serve short?

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  42. Oyelaking Posted on December 17, 2016 at 5:16 pm

    Is this(Forehand Topspin) the same thing as a Forehand Loop?

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  43. Aleh Yurchyk Posted on January 22, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    I've spent the whole day watching your videos on this channel. Good job!

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  44. Adam karam Posted on January 25, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    I'd like to know what rubber do you use on forehand

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  45. garry rahmanto Posted on March 19, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    what blade & rubber? used jef

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  46. Arshit B Posted on May 17, 2017 at 8:56 am

    Best channel to learn table tennis – ping skills

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  47. Amogh Kulkarni Posted on May 27, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    What's the significance of angles between your arms?

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  48. Svetoslav Spasov Posted on June 12, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    This shot has been one of my problems recently. I find I often play against choppers, and it's hard for me to convert the rally into an offensive one, and I usually lose the chopping game.

    It's always been hard for me to counter their backspin and create my own topspin. Now I understand that my mistake is I'm trying to do a FH loop or FH topspin, which requires the bat to be a lot more closed than this shot requires.

    I'll try it tonight with my practice partner, I hope I can surprise him with some awesome shots! 🙂

    Thanks a lot, PingSkills!

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  49. gustavo fernandez Posted on August 15, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    Please put subtitle in spanish? Thanks

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  50. Kartik Bhilwar Posted on August 15, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    But is there any trick to attack even on a short lenght backspin

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  51. Oliver Greer Posted on August 17, 2017 at 2:05 am

    ah so its like a buggy whip in tennis, makes sense now. ive been having trouble returning strong backspin shots with topspin, this helps a lot

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  52. Shahil Gope Posted on September 21, 2017 at 4:52 am

    Actually i am confused when to use loop when to topspin and when to do smash and my main problem is everytime my ball goes out of table …please help me

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  53. Warren Franz Posted on September 29, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    Such pure strokes 😍

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  54. Bennedict Jumao-as Posted on October 18, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    Coach, what is the difference between a backspin ball and an underspin ball?

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  55. DomZ Music Posted on November 13, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    video starts at 0:00 thank me later

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  56. mohd abdul azhar Posted on December 14, 2017 at 4:54 pm

    I have learnt topspin perfectly through your videos….Thank you ! 🙂

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  57. Tautvydas Niaura Posted on January 30, 2018 at 5:59 pm

    PingSkills , can you recommend a bat with thick sponge i really like ti spin, but also i want control

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  58. PingSkills Posted on February 13, 2018 at 2:16 am

    Thanks for your support. You can watch all of our strokes & techniques videos in a logical order on our website: https://www.pingskills.com/categories/strokes-and-techniques

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  59. Anirudh Deshpande Posted on March 28, 2018 at 3:39 pm

    my opponent chop the ball in which after first bounce the ball comes near the edge of deep and the ball doesn't bounce much what should I do??

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  60. 조커dank Posted on April 4, 2018 at 12:53 am

    Very helpfull…..thx

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  61. T Sing Posted on April 11, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    What do you do if the ball doesn't reach far enough on the table on your opponent's serve?

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  62. Aquatic planet mayray dosth Posted on August 1, 2018 at 7:53 am

    You are my only coach in my Table tennis life

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  63. CarlJohnson Posted on August 12, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    how to chop against topspin

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  64. Max Wu Posted on December 26, 2018 at 3:29 am

    It must be mentioned that every single ball is different in terms of speed and spin, so one sole movement like this would be rather hard to apply in a actual game. Also, you can tell that it is weak backspin, in reality no one professional would offer you such a move. They would either apply heavy backspin or aim it somewhere else. This just demonstrates the easiest version of forehand topspin against backspin. Easy placement. Easy spin. Try using this move on a heavy backspin which isn't in a comfortable position.

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  65. daniel cadena garcia Posted on February 24, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    Do you do weight transfer with your knees on this stroke, the same way you would with a regular loop?

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  66. Bushan Bengaluru Posted on September 13, 2019 at 2:15 am

    Correct me if wrong, we have to take.the shot after it completes the projection after it pitches on our side of table, if not either it goes out of the table or it will hit net

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  67. Kartik Pande Posted on September 28, 2019 at 4:03 am

    Hi there. …this was a very helpful video but the problem I am facing is that I end up hitting 90 percent of my shots outside the table while taking the racket vertically. What should I do to improve this?

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