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Forehand Topspin Against Block | Table Tennis | PingSkills


Hi I’m Alois Rosario and I’m Jeff Plumb from
PingSkills.com and today we are going to talk about the forehand topspin against block. SO let us have a look at the 3 basic things
we need to consider with the forehand topspin stroke. Firstly let us consider our leg position.
We need to have our feet nice and wide apart, you can either be quite square on to the table
or because it is more of an aggressive stroke you can turn a little bit more towards your
forehand side. The second thing we need to consider is your
start position. You are starting with your bat fairly flat you can turn it over, we will
talk about that a little bit later, but your starting position needs to be down and around
knee high or between your hip and you knee. The third thing to consider is we need to
make a brushing contact and then finish with your bat up nice and high above your head
with a 90 degree angle here and a 90 degree angle here. When you are starting out you can start with
a nice flat bat like Jeff is doing here. As you can see he is still generating topspin
on the ball by starting low and finishing high and he is brushing up the back of the
ball. But there will be a limit to how fast you can hit this type of stroke with such
a lifting action. Eventually the ball has to go off the end of the end of the table.
So how do we hit the ball faster? There are two things, one we need to turn our bat forward
and we need to get our stroke a little bit more forward as well. So rather than the very
lifting stroke now we are starting a little bit further back with the angle down and coming
forward. If you have found this lesson on the forehand
topspin useful, go to PingSkills.com where you will find lots more information about
the strokes of Table Tennis.

David Frank

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89 COMMENTS

  1. Richard Bell Posted on June 20, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    You guys are awesome!!

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  2. yusufonepiece Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    I know you've heard this many times but could you please make a video with you two playing each other, like a match ?? :]

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  3. hawkfish88 Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    A game of you two against each other would be great for the fans!

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  4. Merlinus Rondotus Posted on June 20, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    ya your right please do that

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  5. GeneralSpecific3 Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    I'll throw myself in with the requests for a match between the two of you.

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  6. PintoTM Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    yeah… and add some link to bet-and-win or something!!!

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  7. PintoTM Posted on June 20, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    1:52 nice advice… very important to teach this point

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  8. lkotopes Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:30 am

    make videos forehand and backhand topspin against push

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  9. PingSkills Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:44 am

    We have a video on that on our website.

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  10. PingSkills Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:46 am

    We actually already have these videos. You can find them on the lessons page of our website.

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  11. Detherocable Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:43 am

    hi guys. loved this video. when are you going to upload the backhand topspin against block? just curious

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  12. PingSkills Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Thanks for the kind words. The new backhand topspin against block lesson will be up within the next week!

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  13. manu de hanoi Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:29 am

    from 90 deg to 90 deg so no forearm rotation ?

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  14. PingSkills Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Not necessarily starting at 90/90. This is the finish position. Some players like to start with the arm quite straight and others prefer it more bent. Find what feels comfortable for you.

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  15. manu de hanoi Posted on June 22, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    Thanks, I've been told shoulder rotation movements are quite slow to recoil (compared to elbow rotation), are they promoted in this vid because the block is a rather slow ball ? I guess we wouldnt have time to make a full elbow swing against a more agressive couter ball,would we ?

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  16. PingSkills Posted on June 25, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Great questions. The best place for in depth conversations is on our website under the ask the coach section. There we are not limited by the length of the comment box. If you post a question about this there Alois will answer it for you.

    The shoulder rotations are an important part of the stroke when you are trying to generate more power as to are the legs, the arm and even the wrist. All of this will help you get the bat moving through faster.

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  17. Uberpong Posted on July 19, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    Nice tutorial. Thanks for the tips guys 😉

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  18. PingSkills Posted on August 9, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    The topspin is an extension of the counterhit. You put more topspin on the ball which causes the ball to dip and allows you to hit the ball harder and still get it on the table.

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  19. Marcel Kaufmann Posted on August 25, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    miss your speeding up forearm….. drafting and fast buckling at the ball touch – sorry for this scary englisch… i don't know the technical terms in englisch…

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  20. reinterpret_cast Posted on August 28, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    What's the difference between the european style loop and chinese style loop? And which one is shown in the video?

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  21. Detherocable Posted on August 30, 2012 at 10:31 am

    sir how do i get more topspin on the ball? escpecially against the backspin?

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  22. PingSkills Posted on September 4, 2012 at 11:50 am

    It's all about the brushing action. Against backspin your stroke can be more vertical. Make a fine brushing contact and as it is a fine contact you can move your bat through quite fast.

    You can also ask questions on our website under the ask the coach section. There we have a lot more room to answer your questions.

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  23. PingSkills Posted on October 17, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Correct. A loop is a shot with lots of topspin that causes the ball to dip. It is also refered to as a topspin stroke.

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  24. PingSkills Posted on October 24, 2012 at 5:33 am

    Try to watch the ball as closely as possible. This is really important.

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  25. PingSkills Posted on October 27, 2012 at 3:52 am

    You're welcome.

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  26. 3isico Posted on December 19, 2012 at 10:19 am

    Seems you do this stroke without using the swing of your arm, but instead you use shoulder/body rotation? I make more use of the swing of my arm rather than shoulder rotation, Should I change that? Does it make me more consistent if i go for shoulder body rotation rather than arm rotation?

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  27. 3isico Posted on December 19, 2012 at 10:21 am

    Forgot to say that you guys are awesome, great, the best etc.! Not just in teaching but also in promoting the sport! Big thx!

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  28. PingSkills Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Thanks. We appreciate the kind words.

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  29. boody ashraf Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    why the ball go out ! i do the steps correctly ! :s

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  30. PingSkills Posted on March 30, 2013 at 4:31 am

    Are you getting a good brushing action on the ball?

    What sort of bat are you using? Can it generate plenty of spin?

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  31. PingSkills Posted on July 11, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    We recommend the PingSkills Rook as your first real table tennis bat. As you've already been using some decent bats, you could try the PingSkills Touch with Mark V. Take a look on our website for more information.

    Cheers,
    Jeff.

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  32. Vikram Posted on September 16, 2013 at 9:52 am

    The ball is not going fast When I hit it . Help!!! . I have a good bat .

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  33. Mighty Edwin Posted on September 17, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    make a more flatter contact instead of brushing it alot might help you

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  34. Justine Ortega Posted on September 24, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Hi PingSkills!!I like your videos that my strokes became better and the ball always goes in with good spins but my only problem is the direction that the ball takes is irregular how can I fix that?

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  35. Alok Singh Posted on October 9, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Then what's difference between forehand counter and forehand topspin???

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  36. Erwin Kunst Posted on May 9, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    nice music What is the name of the

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  37. Saif Memon Posted on May 27, 2014 at 8:07 am

    Thankyou Guys, You are really teaching me Table Tennis 🙂

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  38. Mad Max Posted on July 13, 2014 at 7:49 am

    A very good one guys ;-))

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  39. Ketan Sharma Posted on July 20, 2014 at 6:48 am

    Sir you are a great tt player help me out with a really heavy topspin drive that i cant block

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  40. vijay sekar Posted on September 14, 2014 at 5:45 pm

    I always favour my backhand block over my forehand which allows my opponent to go on the attack and get the point most of the time. How do I stop doing that and actually play my forehand more? 

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  41. DaJaguar Posted on October 29, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Why doesn't he extend his arm much? Wouldn't that give the ball more power and spin?

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  42. James Tse Posted on February 28, 2015 at 11:39 pm

    I'm just curious Pingskills regarding the finishing position of the loop and forehand topspin. At the end of the stroke does the bat angle have to be at the side of your head or tilted at your head?

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  43. muhammad fahmi Posted on March 17, 2015 at 4:38 am

    how can i spin the chop ball from my opponent ??

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  44. AJP123 Posted on March 22, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    Do I lock my wrist when I do this?

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  45. Tushar Joshi Posted on May 24, 2015 at 8:40 am

    how can i get more spin while playing forehand topspin

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  46. DarrenmiDinyin93 Posted on June 8, 2015 at 11:40 am

    Do I need to lock my entire arm to do this stroke right?

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  47. shrey katakwar Posted on August 21, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    best non removable bat for begginers

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  48. Rafael Lava Posted on September 26, 2015 at 9:35 am

    I have a problem…
    When i didn't play for months…
    I can't do a very fast topspin, I mean I can't return it to the opponent's side of the table.

    Can you help my problem?What should I do?

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  49. ali rayya Posted on October 3, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    always i hit the ball by" vertical brushing contact"i need to Forget it? help me .my hand is hurtting

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  50. Rajavardhan Vadla Posted on December 14, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    I started playing tt with my right hand but I am actually left handed. My left side of the body can generate more power than my right. So, since one month I have been playing with my left hand. I am now comfortable with my back hand and can return back spin, top spin and side spin with ease .

    But I am not getting hang of my forehand. I need to make great effort just to put the ball on the table with my forehand. Can you help me?

    One thing is that, i usually put more weight on my left leg than right.

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  51. muntecy Posted on January 2, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    hi Coach Alois. I noticed that you don't mention anything about using your wrist on a forehand loop. I have always used my wrist when I do a forehand loop. However my loops have always been spinny but slower. I recently stopped using too much wrist and found that my shots are faster. I'm also able to make more kill shots. What's your opinion on using the wrist on the forehand loop?

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  52. Danial saif Posted on February 25, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    I flick my wrist more often but can't get the ball to topspin what should I do?

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  53. Sushant Mishra Posted on March 16, 2016 at 5:21 am

    You know pingskills I love your channel anything about table tennis i need to know here is the place I come first rather going here and there thanks for all the videos keep it u👍👍👍👍

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  54. Sushant Mishra Posted on March 16, 2016 at 5:22 am

    correction …up

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  55. Elkhalal Posted on May 7, 2016 at 1:59 am

    @pingskills
    Thanks Alois, I have learned many techniques from the channel
    i hope to see you on one day….
    perfect coach

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  56. Rajesh mohite Posted on August 11, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    How to play against the one who loops or Block the after smashing

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  57. somya bajaj Posted on September 13, 2016 at 6:43 am

    sir plz suggest best tt paddle for intermediate player for fast short and for fablous spin

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  58. Jishnu Mehta Posted on October 7, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    Thank u coach I got how to do forehand topspin🏓🏓🏓🏓

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  59. Jishnu Mehta Posted on October 8, 2016 at 7:10 am

    Thnx coach u play very well👍👍👍👍

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  60. Jishnu Mehta Posted on October 10, 2016 at 5:25 am

    Anytime coach👍👍👌👌👌

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  61. Ricardo Oliveira Posted on November 30, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    A Explicação foi tão boa que mesmo sem entender a sua língua aprendi tudo direitinho obrigado ( thank you )

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  62. Ricardo Oliveira Posted on November 30, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    Em tempo valeu um like e uma inscrição no seu canal.

    Reply
  63. Abdul Rehman Posted on December 5, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    what should be the angle of the racket?

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  64. Mahbub Hossain Posted on January 7, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    Thanks !It was truly helpful.

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  65. akshat tripathi Posted on January 15, 2017 at 10:23 am

    Sir whenever I hit the ball it goes off the table while doing topspin.I tried closing the racket angle and then too its not working. what should I do? pls tell

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  66. Stefan Posted on January 27, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    Thanks now I know it 🙂 And nice job

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  67. Vu Tran Posted on March 1, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    Hi, I'm just wondering what is the different between topspin and drive?

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  68. ankur ajay Posted on March 5, 2017 at 8:59 am

    Hey alois please help me every coach or video i referred told me that your hand needs to be relaxed and straight and you close the forearm to generate the spin but jeff's hand always remain at 90 degrees. also i noticed that even your hands are mostly straight while hitting a topspin. since i have been following your site my action is quite similar to jeff which my coaches say is not right. what do i do now?

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  69. Storm#nr1 dalbayob Posted on May 11, 2017 at 5:51 am

    i go watch all vidjot men))

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  70. mitali Chakraborty Posted on May 27, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    Thx man. Now I can play better tt.

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  71. swag games Posted on May 29, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    should we hold the bat tightly

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  72. O. Henry Posted on July 8, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    I've notice that you coaches and other players on an international level generate speed on the ball by moving their whole arm (and with slight body rotation). Now what I've learned during trainings is, that the main source of momentum should be the movement of bending your elbow. Which technique should I be using and if both are correct, under which circumstances should I prefer one?

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  73. anahuic Posted on August 28, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Your demos show your balls all bouncing to Jeff at the same height. So he starts with the bat between knee and hip height and ends the stroke with the bat just above head height. If the ball bounces a foot or more higher the stroke clearly has to start from a higher position. But does it still end at the same height as before? I'm having trouble with the high bouncers.

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  74. Илья Минкин Posted on August 29, 2017 at 3:49 am

    Jeff's legs are like tree trunks!

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  75. Saayan Mahesania Posted on October 11, 2017 at 11:22 am

    Does anybody see a babyface on his knee at 1:55

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  76. Daljeet Singh Posted on October 14, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    thanks sir but which racket do u use

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  77. Ramish Wafa Posted on October 30, 2017 at 4:35 am

    can you guys please do a video on how to do top spin on top spin?

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  78. Shaila Khandagale Posted on November 1, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    which bat you recommend for a fast but defensive player?

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  79. Shaila Khandagale Posted on November 2, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I now use GKI fasto bat and my defend means I stand and block but by placing the ball.

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  80. Katleho Motake Posted on June 5, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    That's a fire beat!!!

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  81. Ally Ally Posted on June 18, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    I wish I had you as a coach instead of this mentally disabled guy who can't teach

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  82. muhammad ikmal Posted on July 18, 2018 at 5:10 am

    dear pingskill, i have a question, if i want to topspin, it always become sidespin. is it okay or should i changed my techniques?

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  83. S B Posted on September 1, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    Perfect – thanks gents

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  84. Sabit Gashi Posted on November 24, 2018 at 9:37 pm

    This is very different from Chinese topspin

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  85. Rajesh kumar Neethi rajan Posted on January 11, 2019 at 4:40 am

    Coach Jeff my top spins always have a side spin on them even though I have a flat bat contact and don't tilt the bat how to create pure topspin?I like your coaching a lot

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  86. Rajesh kumar Neethi rajan Posted on January 11, 2019 at 4:59 am

    How to overcome sidespin while topspinning

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  87. Faltu Id Posted on January 16, 2019 at 8:14 pm

    I can't understand the difference between forehand counter hit and forehand topspin?

    Reply
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