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Match Strategy Playing as a Chopper | Table Tennis | PingSkills

Hi, I’m Alois Rosario from PingSkills. There are a lot less defenders around today
but as a defender, with the right strategies, you can still reach a really high level. The first thing as a defender is to make sure
that you’re keeping the ball nice and low over the net. And the other thing is to make sure that you’re
getting the ball deep on the table. A good way to get feedback on the depth of
your stroke is to put a line across the table. So here I’ve used a skipping rope to hang
over as a guide. That will get you to focus on where that chop is landing. Whether it’s
landing close to the end of the table or closer to the net. As you get better you can move
that line further and further back. You’ll be surprised how quickly you can adjust,
once you put that rope on the table, to getting that ball deeper and making your shot more
effective. The next thing we can focus on is which side
of the table we are going to play the ball to to get a more effective stroke. 99% of attackers are going to use their forehands
against your chops but that doesn’t mean that you stop thinking about the placement. You’re trying to find the position on the
table where it’s harder for them to play an attacking strong shot. For me I prefer playing
my forehand from my backhand corner and I don’t like playing that forehand from here,
it just isn’t as strong. And you’ll find that quite a lot of attackers have that same problem
so think about which side you’re going to play to to make it more difficult for them
to attack you strongly. As a defender then you’ll find that playing
down the line from here to their forehand corner can be a really effective tactic because
the attacker will be looking for that ball there to attack and if that’s their weaker
side, this can be a really effective stroke. One of your other main weapons as a defender
is your variation of spin. If you’re using an inverted rubber on the forehand or backhand
side, you have a real power to be able to change spin subtly and that is going to get
some errors from the attacker. So I need to watch the spin that Jeff is putting
on the ball. That’s heavy I need to lift it. That’s less spin, that’s a medium spin, that’s
heavy spin, that’s really heavy I need to lift that one and there he was going for the
no spin ball that I needed to come right over. So I need to watch the spin that Jeff’s putting
on the chop. That’s a no spin, that’s heavy spin I need to lift it, that’s really heavy.
Ohh, and that has forced me into the error and I’ve put it into the net. A lot of defenders are going to be using the
long pimples on the backhand. Now the long pimples do give you much better control and
ability to control that faster or spinnier ball but it is a bit limited with the amount
of variation you can put on the spin. However you still need to look at making some variations
with the spin. So with the long pimples if you really brush down on the ball with a lot
of wrist and speed you can still generate more spin on the ball. It is subtle but you
need to be able to use those subtle variations to try and get the error from the attacking
player. So I need to still watch what Jeff is doing
with his bat here. So there he’s really come under the ball, there he’s really come under
the ball and it’s generated a bit more spin. So that’s less spin. So let’s watch what Jeff
is doing now. So he’s used more wrist there, more wrist to generate a bit more spin, and
less wrist, less wrist so that he’s getting less spin, that’s more spin. So we’ve talked about keeping that ball low
and deep but don’t forget some variation is also good. Surprisingly enough sometimes if
you play the ball a little bit higher it can be a more awkward ball for the attacker. A
lot of attackers like playing that ball when it’s low and that’s when the ball is really
in the slot for them and they might find that ball that’s a little bit higher a little bit
more awkward. Just work out with the opponent that you’re playing against whether they like
that ball lower or like that ball higher. The same goes for the depth. If you’re always
playing the ball deep on the table the attacker can start to get used to that and set themselves
up a little bit further away from the table. If sometimes you’re playing the ball shorter
that forces them to move in and out slightly. Again making a variation that forces the attacker
to move and think and perhaps leads them to an error. So don’t forget, your basic tactic is to keep
the ball low and deep but some variation of height and depth can be really effective. If you’re a defensive defender, relying on
the other person to make a mistake it’s really important to be as consistent as you possibly
can. And that consistency starts with being able to push the ball on the table. I hate
seeing a defender make a pushing error. It’s really important as a defender that you really
work hard on your pushing to keep that ball on the table and keep the attacker under pressure. During the rally you need to be patient, keep
that ball on the table, find a difficult position for your opponent, and wear them down, get
the error from your opponent. If you are a modern defender and have a good
attack with your forehand then you need to start to think a little bit more about variation
of spin. By varying the spin you’re going to set yourself up to make that winning stroke
with either your forehand or your backhand. So what we’re looking for is a heavy backspin
and then less backspin on the next one forcing your opponent to either lift the ball high
or push the ball high which lets you come in and make a strong attack. Let’s have a look at your serves now. With your service you need to think about
whats going to give you the best chance to win the point. Now if just like to get back
and start chopping then maybe I should try and serve just a long backspin serve. And
then I can get back, I know he’s going to attack it, and get into the rally. But if he’s got a really strong attack then
maybe he’ll be too fast for me so if I serve it and he’ll just attack it and I don’t have
time. So you need to weigh up how strong your opponents attack is and how fast you can serve
and if you’re going to be troubled maybe you’re better off serving it short. If I serve it
short he’s got to push then I can get a nice push in and then I can get into a good position
to start playing my chopping game and win the rally from there. So remember to think about your serve a lot.
Probably short is going to be a good option against a strong attacker. If their forehand
is not as strong you could go longer but always think about the direction, think about the
variation of your spin and speed, and get into a position that’s going to be favourable
for you as a chopper and give you the best chance of winning the point. Defenders can sometimes get caught in the
thinking that they can only win points by grinding their opponent down and waiting for
an error but with the serve you’ve got a real opportunity to put them under pressure straight
away and even win some points outright just with the serve. So make sure that you really
work on your serves, work on your variations, your spin, your placement, your speed, really
mix it up and you’ll find it will make a big difference to your game. Concentrate on your
serve even if you’re a defender. A good surprise tactic, if you’re a defender,
is to serve and play a third ball attack. It doesn’t even have to be a strong attack,
it’s just a surprise tactic that’s going to make it difficult for your opponent. If you
do have a strong forehand, even better, use it a little bit more often. You’ll find that attackers will become complacent
with their returns so that will give you a lot of opportunity to make that third ball
attack. As a defender you also need to think about
your return of serve. Don’t just think about getting the ball back on the table, you’re
looking to put the attacker under pressure with that first ball. Find out where they’re
looking to attack from. Keep it way from that area. So it could be returning the ball short
to not allow them to attack that third ball, or it could be pushing the ball deep to a
difficult position for them to make that first attack. And don’t forget sometimes if they become
complacent with their serving and they serve the ball long to you just make an attacking
ball which will change it up for them and can draw an error. As a defender then we need to think about
keeping that ball low, keeping the ball deep on the table but then let’s start to think
about variation, variation of spin, variation of placement, and also sometimes making the
attack, and if you can put all of that together you will become a really formidable opponent.

David Frank



  1. Roman Adar Posted on July 6, 2015 at 3:14 am

    This video plus the one that talks about "footwork for defender" are full of great tips and techniques for a defender like me and others. Thanks again for sharing!

  2. Ming Yong Posted on July 24, 2015 at 12:07 pm

    You guys are good players and very kind as most of your videos are free, most sites doesn't have 10% of free videos as pingskills. Keep on spreading the love for table tennis, people who are altruistic like you guys are very rare now.

  3. Gustav Mårdby Posted on July 28, 2015 at 4:07 pm

    best strategy for defensive players: be offensive instead.

  4. Jay Turberville Posted on August 27, 2015 at 8:55 am

    Nice video. Thanks. Perhaps consider using non- white signage in the future. You can't see the ball very well when it passes in front of those signs.

  5. John Van Deusen Posted on September 4, 2015 at 2:15 am

    It seems as though table tennis is so attack commend oriented these days that one never see information or training on defensive play. I appreciate you putting this information out here for all to see. There are many ways to play this great game, and we need to explore all styles. Great job, guys!

  6. ShurikimVolt Posted on September 16, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    Can I request a tutorial for ma long serve pls ping skills

  7. Евгений Шумилин Posted on November 3, 2015 at 9:56 am

    Is it useful for attacking players to put a line on the table to work on the depth of topspins?

  8. Numen Rubino Posted on November 5, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    what happens when two players both play chop?

  9. Ashwin Jogaratnam Posted on November 13, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    nice job on this video

  10. Max Ashton Posted on November 18, 2015 at 8:33 am

    Reply to me if i'm wrong, but its not racism saying all Chinese play the chop game? I've never met a chinese who hans't

  11. VLADO GAMES Posted on February 2, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    +Can you make a video playing as a attacker?

  12. Jolteon RL Posted on March 3, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    Chopper vs another chopper
    what will happen?

  13. Jolteon RL Posted on March 3, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    the weakness of defenders is receiving a very short and slow ball unless if they attack it

  14. Marcus D Posted on March 14, 2016 at 1:43 am

    Am I the only one who likes to chop back a chop?

  15. Patrick Ward Posted on May 15, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    Love your videos!

  16. Wahidur Rahman Posted on May 26, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    Thanks for the great tips.can you please suggest some blades for a modern defensive player and rubber for forehand and backhand.

  17. MophisGames Posted on June 1, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    Is there a chop when i play penhold grip?

  18. AlA Posted on July 6, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    Does he realize he's teaching the defender to become an attacker?

  19. Tragic Swag Posted on July 16, 2016 at 10:44 am

    Ur vidz r so boring

  20. Manny GT Posted on July 24, 2016 at 11:18 am

    ping skills I won't to buy a new bat but I can't find a good site and a reasonable price

  21. CloneHat Posted on August 12, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Kim Song I has inspired me to check out the defender videos!

  22. Adrian Balinao Posted on August 19, 2016 at 1:03 am

    This is so perfect! As a newcomer to the game, I appreciate the work you do and encourage you to keep sharing your knowledge.

  23. TtfnoGaming Posted on August 19, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    Would you guys ever make a video on playing against a chopper/defender or attackers or all round players? Like techniques against different styles of play. Please make a video about it, I'm guessing it would also help lots of other people. Thanks in advance!

  24. Joshua Mitchell Posted on August 23, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Maybe if I knew what a chopper was this video would make sense to me 😂

  25. Peter Fuchs Posted on August 27, 2016 at 7:37 pm

    I liked the video, but I have to disagree with one point. A no spin ball wont result in an attackable ball in return if the attacker knows what he is doing. A heavy backspin ball who forces the attacker to chop will make a much better opportunity. Greetings from germany 😉

  26. Tanish Sunilkumar Posted on August 31, 2016 at 8:30 am

    Hi pingskills, I here would like to know how to smash a chop

  27. ClauWasaki Posted on September 1, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    I really love this channel and Alois-Jeff´s charisma and knowledge, I don´t know how a country didnt hire you to train their players yet

  28. donald trump Needs ten thousand subs video Posted on September 4, 2016 at 10:52 am

    Love your videos

  29. Laqqsd Posted on September 9, 2016 at 7:43 am

    what do you do when their hitting it low with no spin

  30. Action Mayne Posted on September 11, 2016 at 3:24 pm

    why are there so few defenders around?

  31. Zazen forever Posted on October 9, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    Great video, Question, you talk about hitting a no spin chop. How would you do that? Thanks.

  32. Referre Posted on October 10, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    Also important for a chopper to try to stay always in the comfort zone in a certain distance to the table and keep your racket in a higher starting position to be ready for a good chop where you dive into the ball and dont let the ball dive into yourself.

  33. INFAMOUS GAMING Posted on October 16, 2016 at 9:47 am

    to get a good spin with long pips we should move our wrist fastly or our hand ??????i m getting problem in giving my opponent a heavy spin i want to learn a really heavy spin plz tell me to get a heavy spin on ball………………………

  34. Raman Sahota Posted on October 20, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    thanks for this

  35. Tech Surfer Posted on November 4, 2016 at 4:13 am

    thank u Sirs. I had watched ur backhand chop video . By standing behind the table a bit, we can get perfect swing, speed and spin for the ball which is difficult to smash on. I have learned it and ur helped me learn it. Great idea.

  36. Tech Surfer Posted on November 4, 2016 at 4:14 am

    and ur video helped me learn it.

  37. Tech Surfer Posted on November 4, 2016 at 4:17 am

    my friends first suggested me abt. ping skills. Now i would suggest my other friends who dont know about this channel. I have liked some of ur videos and subscribed ur channel cuz. i love ur dedication and work.

  38. John Cooper Posted on November 4, 2016 at 12:29 pm

    excellent tutorial thank you.
    As a novice club player I still need to work hard on my technique and stroke consistancy but it is very helpful to have some appreciation of strategy too. Once my shots become a little more consistant I can then start thinking about assessing my apponents play and consider some strategy about shot selection and placement .

  39. Absolute zero Posted on November 15, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    Hey I'm 12 nearly thirteen and one of the best in my school my dream is to be a champ just like you you have helped me so much thank you so much I owe you a lot you might not read this but if you do please reply

  40. M. J. Posted on November 25, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    Your channel is awesome, I'm trying hard to beat my teammates and I've found your chain very useful. I wish there were more tutorials on how to properly use pimples though since that's what I use and I'm still having trouble receiving side spin

  41. Daniel Seguel Posted on November 26, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    sub spanish pls

  42. Harun Azat Posted on December 1, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    hi,would you mind,can you share your videos with subtitle,

  43. Ben Kinnison Posted on December 12, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    what happens when a defender plays a defender?

  44. Barney PawnsU Posted on December 22, 2016 at 10:25 am

    his head is shiny

  45. ankur ajay Posted on December 30, 2016 at 9:03 am

    Sir i want to both chop and loop from my backhand what rubber will suit me

  46. hantu jepun Posted on January 5, 2017 at 1:10 am

    what the the best thickness for choping,help me

  47. felixmarc98 Posted on January 29, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    have you made a video about how to play against choppers?

  48. AVERSILF GAMING Posted on February 5, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    Hi guys can you make a video about right hand windshield wiper serve and if yes the pls send the link

  49. ricky golfer Posted on March 2, 2017 at 2:56 am

    I don't know what you would call me, I use lp on my back hand and am working on becoming a strong forehand looper/attacker however due to the fact that it is very difficult to continue to play strong offense shots to long pip, which forces an opponent to either miss or push most of the time, I am starting to learn how to attack opponents pushes with underspin, and although it is not as easy as playing a topspin shot with my forehand and the attack is not very strong, it is a very ugly ball for my opponent to have to deal with

  50. lastxp xro Posted on March 2, 2017 at 10:22 am

    There are lots more things you need to know as a modern defender like passive forehand returns, flat counters. And using pips to shovel, chop-block or fake spin etc. But one of the hardest things to master is returning no spin to your pips.

  51. Mr.Moody Posted on March 4, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    what is the bat you are using?

  52. TheFamilyCat Posted on March 30, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    Very helpful advice !

  53. Armel Hendriks Posted on May 31, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    Nice video, I just explained that I am a defender. I always backspin and sometimes I try to chop, but unsuccessful. But now I know how to chop, thanks pingskills!

  54. John Mathewson Posted on June 3, 2017 at 10:09 am

    I reckon there is generally a higher proportion of "modern" defenders capable of playing a reasonable attacking game than attackers capable of defensive play.

  55. eev s Posted on June 25, 2017 at 10:21 am

    does this work with offensive blade and offensive maximum sponge rubbers?

  56. FERNANDO Z Posted on July 18, 2017 at 11:53 am

    Pingskills me vs my classmate if he win lot game he say to me u bad and me good

  57. KHATRA COC Posted on July 23, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    hello I'm from india
    love table tennis
    but can't afford a table tennis racquet
    can you help me
    to a affordable racquet
    plz can you send me a table tennis racquet
    plz reply

  58. Prue Satria Posted on August 1, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    Thanks for the videos. But, do defenders always need long pips for backhand rubber? Why?

  59. Mr. GoodSir Posted on August 21, 2017 at 9:34 am

    What paddle is he using? Thanks in advance

  60. Suitch Posted on August 25, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    This is one of their best videos, I think. It is amazing how many tips are in one vid.

  61. djhumantorch Posted on August 29, 2017 at 8:56 am

    How do you keep the ball low, if you are closer to the table, and how to do same thing further away

  62. Zom 8 Posted on September 4, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    Thanks for making me better TT player and I hope I soon am as good as you

  63. The Imperishable Posted on September 22, 2017 at 11:38 am

    I am not a defender ……. Pls make a similar video for attackers

  64. hashem almahdi Posted on October 16, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    لو سمحت لو تعمل ترجمة للعربية

  65. Legendary Bro Posted on November 16, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    Hey! I wondering if you have any suggestions for equipment. I'm playing with butterfly Feint Long 3 (long pimples with sponge), Plaxon 450 (backside forehand rubber) and Stiga Carbon offensive right now. I'm really like the equipment but I still wonder if there still could be something even better for me. Would be really happy for a reply.

  66. Earth Walker Posted on December 3, 2017 at 5:59 am

    I'm a defender. I can defend pretty good against people that are really good.

    If you're a defender in table tennis, everyone hates you.

  67. William Asai Posted on December 6, 2017 at 1:43 am

    Good job Mr PingSkills!!

  68. Crist 24 Posted on December 7, 2017 at 2:53 am

    Please make a video about returning different kind of serves with long pimple!! I find that very difficult, especially the short sidetopsping serve. Great vids by the way. Regards from Argentina.

  69. LCnorlak Posted on December 25, 2017 at 5:19 am

    Pingskills, is there any place I can buy a relatively affordable premade bat with long pips? All I've seen are lots of inverted rubbers. I don't want to manage making my own bat but I'd really like to try out long pips. Thanks

  70. Madhura Athalye Posted on March 11, 2018 at 7:51 am

    It's working thnx

  71. Xi Jinping Posted on March 18, 2018 at 7:17 pm

    In Battle im usually a defender so This video really helped me 🙂

  72. Aditya Verma Posted on April 2, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    I am a YouTube addict and surprisingly, this is the channel with highest comments/response ratio!

    Love the content <3

  73. Ruth K Posted on April 15, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    Could you please suggest the name of the racquet or description.. I am facing issue in selecting the right one

  74. Martin Printsmann Posted on April 26, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Hello Pingskills! I just wanted to say that i put two defensive rubbers on a blade, one is a Stiga explosion and other is a Dragon Soft Anti, It is very cool to play with pimples and Anti on a same blade 😀 What is your opinion of it? I practice every training with it, but earlier i had done with normal racket training 😀

  75. Adrian Ruelas Posted on June 20, 2018 at 4:14 am

    its always nice to get the ball deeper

  76. Larry Shrekker Posted on July 2, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    Recently my chops are not going up properly, how do I fix this?

  77. Varun Vikram Posted on September 22, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    Hello Alex,
    Thanks for all the great videos and very helpful tips and has helped me quite a bit. I have played tt for a 4-5 yrs but not regularly so would say am around 6/10 !

    I have a question on returning a heavy underspin especially a very low serve with topspin when the ball is very low and deep. I wanted to give an insight into what the situation is and then ask the question for THAT situation.

    The table we are playing is an average one. We were playing with a 3 star stiga ball with quite an even bounce (very rarely like 1 in a 50 it gets low bounce). I am using: Racket Assembly Yasaka Sweden Extra – Flared Handle, F/H: Yasaka Rakza 7 – Red 2.0, (for forehand) B/H: Yasaka Mark V – Black Max. My aim was to go with a bat which is a balanced one with good spin control. The other people are using just general racquets which are stiga entry level ones (not the worst) and have been used for a bit so are like 4/10 now.

    I find that when I am using those general racquets I am fine with the game. When I use mine and the opponent is using the general ones to play it is also fine. The other day the opponent was using his personal racquet and doing underspin and deep serves. I found that if I used the general racquet to return I can do it comfortably. However when I used my personal racquet I find the ball not THAT easy to control (my fault too coz I wasn't practicing with it 🙁 ) for that serve. So here is the situation

    Situation: Deep and low underspin serve keeping very low and also bouncing low (ie 6 inches or less after SECOND bounce). When using my racquet to push it is fine. When I try to top spin or loop it is going out of the table. I was trying to USE low racquet speed (not High) to do the top spin. I believe HIGH speed is what is recommended in these cases but I just want to use low to see if I can do it rather than just powering through it. So here are my questions.

    1). Is is possible to topspin for my case above with low racquet speed or do I HAVE to use high speed? I thought that since the ball already has a spin and I am merely adding to it INSTEAD of reversing it , hence low speed should have worked. Is this correct ? Please advice
    2). Are the rubbers correct esp the FOREHAND one for such a low speed shot or should I have chosen something with MORE spin to it to do this ?

    I am sorry for the long winded question but hope you can advise. Thanks!

  78. Zazen forever Posted on November 9, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    True, there are far fewer defenders around, but could it be that there is so little training and emphasis placed on the style? Contrast the amount of instructional videos here on YouTube for offensive table tennis play verses defensive style. Would you say that defensive instruction makes up 5% of table tennis training videos? Less?

    This does a tremendous disservice to table tennis by narrowing the possibility of styles and ways to play this game. The only reason this can be is that there is more money in promoting the offensive style of play.

    You do a great benefit to all of table tennis by not only offering the instruction that you do, but specifically by offering instruction for defenders. Great job and thank you!

  79. achal choudhay Posted on December 25, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    Could you show from where I can buy the bat and the ball which you used

  80. Kai Timmer Posted on January 2, 2019 at 10:12 pm

    What is the FH inverted rubber from Jeff?

  81. Austin Becker Posted on February 5, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    I'm watching this video to actually learn how to play against a chopper lol

  82. Daa Mastaa Posted on March 8, 2019 at 11:35 pm

    2:48 lol you see him laughing in the background awkwardly

  83. Zacharie Chiron Posted on May 2, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    I recently started developing a modern defense playstyle, and got long pimples on one of the sides of my bat. While the experience has been pretty good, I appreciate a lot those few videos on defender / strategy as chopper, it helps a lot!

  84. Mohammad Hassan Sohan Ajini Posted on June 11, 2019 at 3:40 pm

    wrong serve @6:54. According to ITTF handbook:
    2.6.5: As soon as the ball has been projected, the server’s free arm and hand shall be removed from the space between the ball and the net.

    While it covers the ball with his free hand!

  85. read Is good Posted on June 27, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    Should i chop and block vs attackers.

  86. Tony Hany Posted on July 9, 2019 at 4:23 am

    I need so mach learnning ping pong with you 😔

  87. Queen of Hearts Posted on July 20, 2019 at 3:55 am


  88. MD. Apple Posted on August 4, 2019 at 8:25 am

    coach as a chopper which rubber is best?

  89. Cindy Tiew Posted on August 5, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    7:08 you served into the danger zone

  90. Marleise Rashford Posted on August 12, 2019 at 2:33 am

    Great lesson. Thank you. I am learning so much from you both.

  91. Vach Lin Posted on September 20, 2019 at 2:40 pm

    looks cool and can impress friends lol

  92. Waleed Mir Posted on October 14, 2019 at 11:25 am

    Hi coach
    Please I want you to show how to play left hand forehand topspin pleaseeeeeeeeee!!!!!!