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NYT: Intel Officials Hesitant To Tell Trump Details On Russia Operations | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


>>>WELCOME BACK TO “VELSHI &>>>WELCOME BACK TO “VELSHI & RUHLE,” RUSSIA ISSUED A SHARP RUHLE,” RUSSIA ISSUED A SHARP WARNING FOLLOWING A “NEW YORK WARNING FOLLOWING A “NEW YORK TIMES TIMES TIMES” REPORT. TIMES” REPORT. NEWS OF THE RUSSIAN NETWORKS. NEWS OF THE RUSSIAN NETWORKS. THE TIMES’ STORY THIS WEEKEND, THE TIMES’ STORY THIS WEEKEND, PROMPTED A PAIR OF TWEETS FROM PROMPTED A PAIR OF TWEETS FROM NONE OTHER THAN PRESIDENT TRUMP NONE OTHER THAN PRESIDENT TRUMP ACCUSING THE PAPER, THE NEW YORK ACCUSING THE PAPER, THE NEW YORK TIMES OF TREASON IN CLAIMING THE TIMES OF TREASON IN CLAIMING THE TIMES MADE THE STORY UP. TIMES MADE THE STORY UP. AGAIN CALLING THE “TIMES” THE AGAIN CALLING THE “TIMES” THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE. ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.>>ACCORDING TO THE “TIMES’”>>ACCORDING TO THE “TIMES’” REPORTING REPORTING REPORTING, THEY BELIEVE MR. REPORTING, THEY BELIEVE MR. TRUMP HAD NOT BEEN BRIEFED IN TRUMP HAD NOT BEEN BRIEFED IN ANY DETAILS AND BROAD HESITATION ANY DETAILS AND BROAD HESITATION TO GO INTO DETAIL WITH MR. TRUMP TO GO INTO DETAIL WITH MR. TRUMP OF OPERATIONS AGAINST RUSSIA OR OF OPERATIONS AGAINST RUSSIA OR CONCERN OVER HIS REACTION AND CONCERN OVER HIS REACTION AND THE POSSIBILITY THAT HE MAY THE POSSIBILITY THAT HE MAY COUNTER COUNTER COUNTER COUNTER COUNTER COUNTER COUNTER COUNTER COUNTER — YOU WILL REMEMBER COUNTER — YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS AND THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR THIS AND THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR OF THE AMBASSADOR AND THE OF THE AMBASSADOR AND THE FOREIGN MINISTER WHEN TRUMP WERE FOREIGN MINISTER WHEN TRUMP WERE FED INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION AND FED INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION AND COMPROMISED METHODS NECESSARY TO COMPROMISED METHODS NECESSARY TO NATIONAL SECURITY. NATIONAL SECURITY.>>JOINING US NOW, OUR U.S.>>JOINING US NOW, OUR U.S. CYBER COMMAND, HE’S THE CHIEF CYBER COMMAND, HE’S THE CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER AT CLARITY. SECURITY OFFICER AT CLARITY. A SECURITY COMPANY THAT A SECURITY COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN PROTECTING SPECIALIZES IN PROTECTING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.>>WE ARE SO LUCKY THAT YOU ARE>>WE ARE SO LUCKY THAT YOU ARE HERE. HERE. FIRST, HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY FIRST, HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY PUT THESE CYBER WEAPON INTO THE PUT THESE CYBER WEAPON INTO THE GRID AND WHY PROVOKE RUSSIA? GRID AND WHY PROVOKE RUSSIA?>>THERE IS A MILITARY INTERESTS>>THERE IS A MILITARY INTERESTS IN HOLDING CERTAIN TARGETS AT IN HOLDING CERTAIN TARGETS AT RISK. RISK. RUSSIA HAS BEEN EXTREMELY RUSSIA HAS BEEN EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE AND FOR YEARS DATING AGGRESSIVE AND FOR YEARS DATING BACK TO 2012. BACK TO 2012. ONE OF THE DIFFERENCE IS AGAIN ONE OF THE DIFFERENCE IS AGAIN IF THE REPORTING IS ACCURATE WE IF THE REPORTING IS ACCURATE WE WOULD BE TARGETING WHAT IS WOULD BE TARGETING WHAT IS CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU HAVE MILITARY TARGETS BUT YOU HAVE MILITARY TARGETS BUT YOU ALSO HAVE CIVILIAN YOU ALSO HAVE CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. INFRASTRUCTURE. RUSSIA ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, RUSSIA ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE, THEIR POWER GRID IS MASSIVE. THEIR POWER GRID IS MASSIVE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HALF A WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HALF A MILLION SUBSTATIONS AND 500 MILLION SUBSTATIONS AND 500 DIFFERENT POWER GENERATION DIFFERENT POWER GENERATION FACILITIES AND 20 DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND 20 DIFFERENT INDEPENDENT POWER COMPANY. INDEPENDENT POWER COMPANY. TO AFFECT THAT AT SCALE IS TO AFFECT THAT AT SCALE IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. WHAT MY CONCERN IS WE MAY BE WHAT MY CONCERN IS WE MAY BE LOSING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND LOSING THE MORAL HIGH GROUND HERE IN THE SENSE THAT THE HERE IN THE SENSE THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS TO DATE AND UNITED STATES HAS TO DATE AND VIEWS AND WE HAVE BEEN PAINTING VIEWS AND WE HAVE BEEN PAINTING RUSSIA AND THE AGRES SORGRESSOR. RUSSIA AND THE AGRES SORGRESSOR.>>WE CAN’T ARGUE THEY PLAY>>WE CAN’T ARGUE THEY PLAY DIRTY. DIRTY.>>IT WOULD HURT THE ARGUMENT.>>IT WOULD HURT THE ARGUMENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PRESIDENT HAS IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PRESIDENT HAS SOME PLAUSIBLE DENIABLE. SOME PLAUSIBLE DENIABLE. HE IS CLAIMING HE DID NOT KNOW HE IS CLAIMING HE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS. ABOUT THIS. WE KNOW FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING WE KNOW FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING THAT THERE HAS BEEN A DESIRE TO THAT THERE HAS BEEN A DESIRE TO DELEGATE MORE. DELEGATE MORE.>>CAN THAT HAPPEN THAT YOU CAN>>CAN THAT HAPPEN THAT YOU CAN BE U.S. CYBER FORCES ATTACKING BE U.S. CYBER FORCES ATTACKING OR TARGETING THE RUSSIAN GRID OR TARGETING THE RUSSIAN GRID AND THE PRESIDENT WOULD NOT KNOW AND THE PRESIDENT WOULD NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT EXPLICITLY. ABOUT THAT EXPLICITLY.>>WHAT WE KNOW IS INCREASINGLY>>WHAT WE KNOW IS INCREASINGLY SO THE PRESIDENT LOOKED TO SO THE PRESIDENT LOOKED TO DELEGATE MORE AND MORE AUTHORITY DELEGATE MORE AND MORE AUTHORITY AND COMMANDER IN IN THE FEEL. AND COMMANDER IN IN THE FEEL. THAT’S SOMETHING THE SIDE THAT’S SOMETHING THE SIDE COMMANDER CALLED FOR AND THAT COMMANDER CALLED FOR AND THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING. COULD BE A GOOD THING. WE DON’T WANT TOO MUCH WE DON’T WANT TOO MUCH BUREAUCRACY AS SPECIAL DOMAIN BUREAUCRACY AS SPECIAL DOMAIN MOVING FAST AS CYBER SECURITY. MOVING FAST AS CYBER SECURITY.>>I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE>>I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THE NEW YORK TIMES IS LYING. THE NEW YORK TIMES IS LYING. THEY DO CITE SOME NAMES AS FAR THEY DO CITE SOME NAMES AS FAR AS CURRENT OFFICIALS. AS CURRENT OFFICIALS. WHAT THEY ARE NOT LYING ABOUT IS WHAT THEY ARE NOT LYING ABOUT IS THAT RUSSIA IS EXTREMELY ACTIVE. THAT RUSSIA IS EXTREMELY ACTIVE. BY STRIKING BACK AT THEM AND BY STRIKING BACK AT THEM AND FIGHTING CYBER SO TO SPEAK, ARE FIGHTING CYBER SO TO SPEAK, ARE WE GOING TO DETER FUTURE WE GOING TO DETER FUTURE OPERATIONS FROM THE RUSSIANS OR OPERATIONS FROM THE RUSSIANS OR IS THIS GOING TO EMBOLDEN THEIR IS THIS GOING TO EMBOLDEN THEIR NARRATIVE AND FIT RIGHT INTO THE NARRATIVE AND FIT RIGHT INTO THE RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA MACHINE AND RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA MACHINE AND BE USED AS AN EXCUSE FOR THEM TO BE USED AS AN EXCUSE FOR THEM TO INCREASE THEIR AGGRESSION FOR INCREASE THEIR AGGRESSION FOR THE UNITED STATES. THE UNITED STATES.>>FIGHTING TRADITIONAL LAND>>FIGHTING TRADITIONAL LAND WARS IS THAT YOU CAN COME TO A WARS IS THAT YOU CAN COME TO A TREATY AND YOU KNOW WHO WAS ON TREATY AND YOU KNOW WHO WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE GENERALLY THE OTHER SIDE GENERALLY SPEAKING. SPEAKING. YOU CAN COUNT THE MISSILES AND YOU CAN COUNT THE MISSILES AND SEE THE TROOPS. SEE THE TROOPS. WHEN IT COMES TO CYBER, A LOT OF WHEN IT COMES TO CYBER, A LOT OF IT IS NOT DONE WITH THE LABEL ON IT IS NOT DONE WITH THE LABEL ON IT IT IT. IT. HOW DO YOU GET TO A PLACE WHERE HOW DO YOU GET TO A PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE OR SAID THE RUSSIANS YOU HAVE OR SAID THE RUSSIANS ARE AND YOU HAVE DONE IT TO US, ARE AND YOU HAVE DONE IT TO US, WE CAN DO IT TO YOU. WE CAN DO IT TO YOU. WHY DON’T WE STOP DOING IT? WHY DON’T WE STOP DOING IT? EVERYBODY DENIES THEY ARE DOING EVERYBODY DENIES THEY ARE DOING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.>>EVERYONE’S DENYING IT.>>EVERYONE’S DENYING IT. IT IS NOT TRANSPARENT. IT IS NOT TRANSPARENT.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT.>>YOU CAN’T SEE THE MISSILES.>>YOU CAN’T SEE THE MISSILES. YOU CAN’T MESSAGE. YOU CAN’T MESSAGE. THERE HAS BEEN EFFORTS TO THERE HAS BEEN EFFORTS TO ESTABLISH NORMS AND ESTABLISH NORMS AND INTERNATIONAL LEVELS WHERE INTERNATIONAL LEVELS WHERE COUNTRIES AGREE AT THE STATE COUNTRIES AGREE AT THE STATE LEVEL ON CERTAIN NORMS AND LEVEL ON CERTAIN NORMS AND BEHAVIORS OF WHAT CONSTITUTES BEHAVIORS OF WHAT CONSTITUTES RIGHT AND WRONG. RIGHT AND WRONG. MY CONCERN OF THIS REPORTING IF MY CONCERN OF THIS REPORTING IF IT IS TRUE IS THAT AGAIN WE ARE IT IS TRUE IS THAT AGAIN WE ARE DEALING WITH CIVILIAN DEALING WITH CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS OFF INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS OFF LIMITS. LIMITS. NOT NECESSARILY OFF LIMITS FOR NOT NECESSARILY OFF LIMITS FOR THE RUSSIANS BUT OFF LIMITS FOR

David Frank

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53 COMMENTS

  1. jerome Nicolazo Posted on June 18, 2019 at 12:20 am

    Reminds me of France in 1981 when socialist Mitterrand came to power… there was some officially communist ministers in the government… Intel community was not sharing its datas with the ministries because they knew for a fact that they were reporting to Moscow… how 'bout it

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  2. Jay Gibson Posted on June 18, 2019 at 12:33 am

    Leak what to whom?

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  3. Bill Hight Posted on June 18, 2019 at 12:44 am

    Trump would betray US intelligence. Yes, that sounds about right.

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  4. Wayman Harris Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:05 am

    Faithful Trump supporters will never believe this news.

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  5. pr0xZen Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:12 am

    Anyone thinking or actually believing that the US hasn't been doing these kinds of things with/to other nations, adversaries and allies alike, as long as it has been technically possible to do so… Anyone believing that, aren't just absurdly naive. There must be something wrong with their mental faculties. Hace we forgotten what Snowden showed us already? Do anyone really think that the United States, the largest aggressor warmongerer in modern history, having been at perpetual war almost since its conception, having gone to war against more countries than Germany in WW1 and WW2 combined, having killed over 20 million people in other countries after WW2 – That this country isn't deploying these kinds of terrorism-measures all around the world right now?

    As an example of carelessness, The US let loose a joint NSA and Israeli developed computer virus on the whole world already in as early as 2005, specifically tailored to spread its way around the world to end up in, and infect systems of nuclear uranium centrifuges – to report back information to the NSA, and cause nuclear centrifuges to catastrophically self-destruct. It has afaik caused over 3000 of these catastrophic self-destructions already. Just google "Stuxnet".

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  6. pr0xZen Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:16 am

    Russian government telling the people that the US government is planting terrorism-type cyberwarfare measures into critical Russian civilian infrastructure, isn't propaganda. It's simply the factual truth.

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  7. Ronny Lim Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:20 am

    This is an act of war.

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  8. Dennis Long Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:22 am

    Democrats have nothing going nowhere. But Barr is investigating the investigators and the democrats will have to treason sign hanging around their necks at election time.

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  9. CallardAndBowser Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:24 am

    Best thing they can do is keep Trump in the dark about everything else and try to keep him occupied with building his wall.
    Damage control.

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  10. Some Person Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:32 am

    So the US president is a national security threat? I'm surprised it took so long to label him as a security threat after he squealed to his Russian handlers in the Oval Office classified information. All while his kids use private servers to pass the same information. The traitor and chief needs to go…

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  11. kayne garcia Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:41 am

    If the fact that THE PENTAGON! Has to withhold detailed information about operations regarding Russia from THE PRESIDENT! For national security reason is not on its own impeachable minus everything else out of this administration I don’t know what is. How do you defend a president that you can’t give info to because it could be a national security risk!

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  12. Gran Catz Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:48 am

    Luckily for America and the rest of the world trump is just a buffoonish imbecile. A wanna be "evil genius"

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  13. Love My Pit Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:57 am

    "I never mentioned it was Israel".
    Donald j. Trump

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  14. BundesRepublic Murica Posted on June 18, 2019 at 2:06 am

    One can only hope that trump is out of the loop given his tendency to spill critical info to his buddies in the Russian government.

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  15. Ken The Janitor Posted on June 18, 2019 at 2:45 am

    Intel officials hesitant to tell Trump details on Russia operations? Gee…I wonder why…

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  16. Tanya Owen Posted on June 18, 2019 at 3:33 am

    Trump advertises his allegiance to Russia. The intelligence agencies couldnt possibly give Trump correct intel info. Their job is to protect the country…

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  17. INCARNATE Posted on June 18, 2019 at 3:48 am

    So our intel officials don't want to share secrets with the biggest traitor in out country's history?…I wonder why…..

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  18. Dan The Man Posted on June 18, 2019 at 5:39 am

    Trump and his non family are absolutely evil. Period

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  19. Johnathan Jocavich Posted on June 18, 2019 at 5:42 am

    I like how this story inadvertently admits the U.S. is capable of hacking into other countries power grids and causing mass blackouts. I wouldn't be surprised if the U.S. decided to hack into their own power grid a caused a mass blackout within their own nation. It's sort if like (pun intended) "Reverse Engineering".

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  20. Mububban23 Posted on June 18, 2019 at 6:11 am

    Admittedly though, why would a US paper want to let Russia and the world know this sort of thing? We all know everyone is trying to do this to each other, but why confirm it?

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  21. Will Storm Posted on June 18, 2019 at 6:16 am

    Since the first people hosted in the oval office were top Russian officials without any Americans in the room and trump has had sit downs with Putin without even a note taker and destroyed notes taken by others it seems likely if he gets a chance he'll tell Putin the launch codes simply to get a pat on the head from his best pal Puuutty.

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  22. Paula S Posted on June 18, 2019 at 6:22 am

    just more P R O P A G A N D A

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  23. RD M Posted on June 18, 2019 at 6:37 am

    Why would you share state secrets with the Manchurian Candidate? Trump works for Russia, after all, and would sell his soul for some more Russian cash. We have a spy living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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  24. whiteaxxxe Posted on June 18, 2019 at 6:43 am

    The pussygrabber is a traitor. Death penalty. Shoot him dead. Now.

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  25. Canadian Patriot Posted on June 18, 2019 at 7:53 am

    Watch Fox News Msnbc is a liar like CNN

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  26. Russell E Simonetta Posted on June 18, 2019 at 9:12 am

    Not the actions of a leader. Trump is dangerous. He needs to FIRE pompeo and bolton!!! They are roques!!

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  27. finalfantasy tamilnadu Posted on June 18, 2019 at 12:26 pm

    its very unintelligent to tell outloud we are attacking Russia's grid…this is so idiotic in net's part and probably false report potus is incharge for all agencies

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  28. Lili Bee Posted on June 18, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    Dear Leader Kim Jong-trump, please don’t be angry!!!!

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  29. Нечего Терять Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:06 pm

    Russian do not surrender!

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  30. hankakah Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    Trump is a Russian spy! Treasonous!

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  31. Leroy Ashley Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:19 pm

    If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, what is it?

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  32. the walkin dude Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:25 pm

    They are right not to trust trump. As soon as they tell him, he'll get on the phone and tell the Russians. I would disseminate false but critical sounding information through trump, and then listen to the traffic in Russia and as soon as he says it, pow! Busted. And there would be solid evidence.

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  33. deftone4u Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    A sad sad day in America. At least for the most part it looks like our institutions that are under attack by Drumpf are adapting to having no one manning the executive desk

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  34. Kermit T. Frog Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    Obviously, this WAS "treason." By reporting that US intelligence was retaliating against Russia, the New York Times spilled the beans. Now, Trump will be doing everything he can to mitigate the damage they do to Mother Russia.

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  35. Lee R. N Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:48 pm

    Ssssshhhhh…..dont tell Trump he might know and leak this very sensitive information.

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  36. Chris Posted on June 18, 2019 at 1:50 pm

    This says a lot about the Federal Agencies trust in our Leader! Crazy Crap is going on!!!!

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  37. Kyle Shebilske Posted on June 18, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    Yea And They Have Their Claws In Ours!
    It's Called Mutual Confirmed Destruction!
    Since Donald J. Trump Has Disclosed Classified Information To Reporters No Less Then 4 Times So Far, So You Can't Trust Him!

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  38. Kapil Rupani Posted on June 18, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    Taking down everything down in Russia until the election for 2020 is not finished. Will give a message to Trump he is going to be in prison like a big Rat .

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  39. Gloria Clayton Posted on June 18, 2019 at 3:04 pm

    Russia need more powerful Sanctions against them and fast,trump letting Russia getaway with murder.

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  40. Bon Scott Posted on June 18, 2019 at 3:33 pm

    Moscow Agent Governing America.😉

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  41. Richard Alexander Posted on June 18, 2019 at 3:41 pm

    Who in their right mind would tell Donnie Dotard about anything sensitive regarding the Russians?

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  42. leo c Posted on June 18, 2019 at 3:50 pm

    America didn’t do anything it was the deep state, and the paper and the people that did it behind the scenes will be in prison soon

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  43. Boyd Gilbreath Posted on June 18, 2019 at 4:24 pm

    The word liar is synonymous with Trump. Soon everyone will understand why Trump and his minions have been so open with their criminal activity. Remember, even though it seems we don't have a President, but just a Mafia Don who has gotten lost, Trump has 4 National Emergencies any one of which can legally enable him to declare Martial Law. Day after day, Trump destroys the government more and more. Barr is setting the stage to dissolve the FBI, or at least make it a pawn of the Trump government. Trump is a Russian agent, and has been a long time. Russia always said they would take the USA without firing a single shot. And now they have.

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  44. Alex Bajan Posted on June 18, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    May God Jezus Christ bless our president Trump of the great USA.

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  45. Daniel Wells Posted on June 18, 2019 at 6:15 pm

    The New York Times exposes a covert military operation and the media cheer. US Cyber Command personnel who've worked years designing code and getting it implemented had it all rendered useless in one night thanks to the NYTimes.

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  46. Lana Kahl Posted on June 18, 2019 at 8:47 pm

    Of course the pentagon doesn’t tell him . You can’t trust a Russian plant.

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  47. Patchwork Girl Posted on June 19, 2019 at 3:59 pm

    Trump should go. He is not reliable. He does not put America first. I don't blame them. Nevertheless, this sets a dangerous precedent. The intelligence sector hiding important information from the Commander in Chief is not good.

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  48. Dondatta Ford Posted on June 20, 2019 at 6:22 pm

    Yea and we know why he's an asset to Putin give him a false

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  49. jbond5150 Posted on June 21, 2019 at 2:11 am

    Trump’s incompetence, arrogance, and stupidity is gonna get us all killed.

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  50. Dennis Huang Posted on June 21, 2019 at 11:31 am

    Ooooh it hurt us because they are civilians target…. tell that to those dead babies in Vitamins and Afghanistan. What a joke?

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  51. Ike Coston Posted on June 23, 2019 at 3:11 pm

    He basically works for putn and is a RAT!!

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  52. Reena K Blas Posted on June 29, 2019 at 1:33 pm

    Security clearance withdrawn, 'unofficially' Yes you have to watch what you say 'in public'.

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