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table tennis timing | Perfect your stroke


Welcome to the channel of coach EmRatThich. The biggest difference between
professional players and amateurs players is timing. Timing is the key to
consistency and proper stroke. Almost every amateur players want to make
a fast forehand topspin or smash. But the speed of the shot often has more to
do with proper technique than physical strength. They want their shots faster but don’t know
the correct timing !
The best way to present the element of “speed” is to discuss about timing. A
stroke that is too early is no better than one that is too late. As a coach, I see
many new players is over-hitting and accelerating too soon on their looping
strokes. To hit a ball at full power, you must be in
perfect position and perfect timing to make a strong shot. If your loops are not consistent, SLOW DOWN
& LEARN THE RIGHT TIMING ! You might be surprised to find that when you
slow down, your strong shots (loop kill, smash) start landing much more
often. I’ve explained to you the tip number 3 “Fix
the position of the ball”. Timing is extremely important in table tennis. Slowing down is more helpful
than rushing. Most strokes should be controlled until the
point of contact with the ball, at which time you should accelerate
in to the ball (a half of second before the contact point). I will show you the optimal timing for each
type of strokes !
The research of Bootsma et al. about “timing an attacking forehand drive in
Table Tennis” of male top players shows some interesting results. Making the contact at exactly the preplanned
position. That’s the principle
of my tips “fix the position of the ball before hitting”. The timing of the top players is very precise. The precision is very high, less
than 5ms for these 5 players (1/200th of a second). The
timing will definitely affect the consistency. The optimal timing for each type of strokes
Backhand flip: You don’t have much time for this shot because you must hit
when the ball is still on the table and you can miss the ball. So you should flip
the ball at its highest position. At this position, the ball “stops” traveling. The
chance that you miss the ball therefore decreases. Backhand push: You should push the ball early,
near it’s highest point. If you
push too late, the ball can jump up high and is easy to be attacked. If you
don’t want to miss the ball, you can push very hard at it’s highest position. Chop: You should chop the ball late, at the
position around your hips. If you
chop too soon, the ball is still high and it’s difficult to “chop downward”
correctly, and your ball is not spinny and can be very high. So wait and chop at
low position. FH loop: Loop topspin ball, you should loop
and counter loop the topspin ball after the highest position. Normally, the ball’s coming with a lot of
speed and spin. This position gives you more time, and the
speed and spin are reduced. If
you want to loop the backspin ball, hit at it’s highest position. It’s the safest
position to avoid the ball goes to the net due to its backspin. BH loop: Loop the topspin ball, you should
hit just after the highest position when the ball start to falling down. Because of the nature of the BH stroke, you
must “lift” the ball, make the ball goes “upward” and “forward”. So wait for a
little, hit by spinning the ball “upward”. BH counter loop or BH block: For this stroke,
you need to close your racket to counter the topspin ball. So hit the ball before the highest position. Don’t
hit too late, you can’t close your racket when the ball has dropped down. Hit
earlier, you can also borrow the opponent’s force. You can separate the 5 positions of hitting
on the trajectory of the ball. From 1
to 5. The position 3 is the highest position. I have summarized the optimal timing for several
types of stroke in table tennis in this table. So please remember: You have MORE time than
you think; but, you may still not have enough time (tip
number 18 of lenisms). LEARN
THE OPTIMAL TIMING ! FIX THE POSITION OF THE BALL !
See you next Sunday ! Let me know which is your best timing stroke by
commenting below. EmRatThich.

David Frank

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100 COMMENTS

  1. Nikola Georgiev Posted on February 4, 2017 at 12:08 am

    We want Fan Zhendong 🙂

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  2. Nikola Georgiev Posted on February 4, 2017 at 12:10 am

    Thank you for the video! Now I actually realised that I really am too rushed when playing and hit too soon rather than waiting for the ball. I will change my pace next time I play and tell you what happenned 🙂 <3

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  3. gilberto yaxcal Posted on February 4, 2017 at 12:15 am

    perfect, thanks

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  4. Bobby Carballo Posted on February 4, 2017 at 12:18 am

    really good video. everything was explained well whether defensive or attacking player. good job COACH. thank you.

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  5. Richard Garcia Posted on February 4, 2017 at 12:37 am

    love the explanation. it's now all a matter of drilling.

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  6. gaspound 863 Posted on February 4, 2017 at 12:49 am

    Good job coach

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  7. Diogo A. P. Wanzeller Posted on February 4, 2017 at 2:25 am

    very good tips. thanks

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  8. Geison Rocha Posted on February 4, 2017 at 2:31 am

    Nice lesson, thx

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  9. Being Instructional Posted on February 4, 2017 at 3:06 am

    Thanks for the Amazing video..could you make a video on how to learn backhand flick…

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  10. Neecroh Posted on February 4, 2017 at 3:51 am

    as always excellent explanation!

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  11. Johan Madroñero Cuervo Posted on February 4, 2017 at 4:05 am

    Thank you so much.

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  12. Siddharth Kandhway Posted on February 4, 2017 at 5:07 am

    Found this very helpful…..could u please make a video on how to fake your opponent…

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  13. Monsterkosh Posted on February 4, 2017 at 5:07 am

    Great video as always coach, thank you very much ! I'm still waiting for videos about chopping or LP in general 😀

    Reply
  14. Coc Gamer Posted on February 6, 2017 at 9:28 am

    quelqu un pourrait traduire en français svp??

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  15. Mr Tutorial Posted on February 6, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    Good video im happy to hear that your chanel i open again, can you make a video how to make the fundamental footwork with the chinese philosophy

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  16. Kishen Pankhania Posted on February 6, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    How is taking the ball away from the table different when using your backhand, I find that I still need to close the bat, but its still sometimes inconsistent

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  17. chebkhaled1985 Posted on February 6, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    good video as usual .. keep it up coach

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  18. Brandon James Posted on February 6, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    vostfr pleas:3

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  19. Rovin Ghansham Posted on February 6, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    can you please explain the difference between using a heavy blade opposed to a light one. I was told that a heavier blade will give u more power in the shot is this true. can you please explain.

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  20. Francis Posted on February 6, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    Next Sunday could you address at what angles do you need to hold the racket when performing strokes? So for example, how open do you need the racket for a push, or a topspin against backspin, etc.? Thanks!

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  21. Coc Gamer Posted on February 6, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    Who can translate this video in french please

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  22. Salvador Miralla Posted on February 6, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    what happened the other day? i was trying to watch you vids but youtube said your account was suspended. did you have any trouble?

    Reply
  23. Francis Raval Posted on February 6, 2017 at 11:59 pm

    Thank God you're back! Welcome back coach!

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  24. Oshin B Posted on February 7, 2017 at 8:50 am

    very informative video !
    what had happened to your account?

    Reply
  25. Francis Raval Posted on February 7, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    Hi! how do you beat someone that uses a hart bat paddle(no sponge, pips out, cheap paddle)? Thank you!

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  26. Nikola Georgiev Posted on February 7, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    lol why is Zhang Jike in a military uniform

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  27. stephanie Posted on February 7, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    I'm your 9,800 sub and please can you do footwork you are my only source of practice I was so sad when your channel went down I'm glad your back.

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  28. Tareq Shahriar Posted on February 7, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    keep up your good work. i regularly check for your new video. just eye-opening

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  29. Alfred W.F Posted on February 8, 2017 at 12:40 am

    Best coach ever 🙂 thanks

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  30. Nhan T Do Posted on February 8, 2017 at 3:14 am

    Amazing. It works well for my forehand topspin. My problem was I touched the ball too early. As a result the placement was too shprt and lt is quite easy to block. After watching your video I realize that I need to wait for timing position 4 or 5. It also means that I have more time for preparation. My strokes are not bad but timing.

    Thank you very much.

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  31. Patrick Keville Posted on February 8, 2017 at 7:48 am

    great video!

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  32. Matteo Armezzani Posted on February 8, 2017 at 1:09 pm

    nice video. i think you didn't mention backhand chiquita over the table. it's very used nowdays in tabletennis. we have a chinese coach and he says you have to hit the ball at point 4 or 5 . i think it's way different from backhand push. what do you think?

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  33. Donald Schwass Posted on February 8, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    do you have a full video series that I may purchase for reference. I have played for years, but I suck. Want to get better at techniques. Thank you for the help. Don

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  34. Trieu Van Sy Posted on February 9, 2017 at 8:21 am

    thks alot, this video is very essential for me and in my opinion it's very scientifical. "accelerate the ball in these timings", that 's easy to remmember.

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  35. Steve Perry Posted on February 9, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    Thanks again! Can you help with reading the spin on serves in a future video?

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  36. Aleh Yurchyk Posted on February 9, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    thanks! Wonderful video!

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  37. Susanto Gozali Posted on February 10, 2017 at 5:21 am

    thanks Emrict

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  38. Bobby Carballo Posted on February 10, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    hello coach emrathick. how are you? hope you're okay. just asking for help about attaching and cleaning my new stiga rosewood nct vii. having a hard time fixing it. and wat good combination rubber on it. i like looping and attacking the ball near and mid the table. thanks

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  39. CrazyZigGamer Posted on February 10, 2017 at 10:58 pm

    Hi I have a problem in table tennis and I need your help how do the top table tennis players of China handle pressure in games and what mine set do they have when they are in a table tennis game can you do a video on 'mental training' in table tennis so that we get to understand how we should think in games thanks. And also keep up the good work I have learned a lot from your channel and grown into a better player thank you 💯

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  40. Coc Gamer Posted on February 11, 2017 at 12:15 am

    how can translate this video in french please ? ???😢😢😢😢

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  41. calvin feng Posted on February 11, 2017 at 12:58 am

    who else saw the backhand FUCK @8:30 lol

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  42. Nguyen Hieu Posted on February 11, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    My friend (also my coach) told me that when loop backspin ball need to wait when for the ball to drop down to table level. Is it good?

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  43. tpresler Posted on February 12, 2017 at 2:41 pm

    Hi
    How are you?
    I'm an offensive player who like to loop far from the table
    These days I'm using Tensor rubber on both FH and BH – Pailo AK47

    Due to your videos about Chinese Philosophy I'm thinking about using a Tacky Chinese rubber on the FH, for example Hurricane 3 neo
    Do you recommend moving from EU rubber to Chinese tacky rubber for my FH?

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  44. Nikola Georgiev Posted on February 12, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    We want more videos

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  45. Kevin Stephens Posted on February 12, 2017 at 10:47 pm

    i can say that i am finally understanding table tennis strokes and there applications. i have learnt so much from your videos. keep it up. very informative!!

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  46. Kevin Stephens Posted on February 12, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    even though i played tennis before i now consider myself as learning. made a mistake and order a straight handle Tibhar blade with Xiom omega euro (maxx sponge) rubbers on both sides. this setup was too fast for me as a beginner/armature. shots were very inconsistent and hard to keep on the table. watched your videos, educate myself and today purchased a donic waldner allplay with some 729 fx (1.8 sponge). this should help me develop and enjoy my tennis. thank you so much for these vids. Cheers!!

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  47. Adam Olaso Posted on February 13, 2017 at 12:42 am

    this is great information! love it

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  48. MokshaNow Posted on February 13, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    Thank you very much coach! I really appreciate your hard work. I play better because of you.

    Reply
  49. NorthBay TableTennisAcademy Posted on February 16, 2017 at 6:01 am

    When do you start your backswing in regards to timing? I've heard when the opponent hits the ball, when the ball crosses the net, etc.
    You mentioned back back back back swing, is there a pause before the swing?
    Thanks, your videos are great!

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  50. Mr. BOB Posted on February 17, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    Can you teach the na long serve side backspin

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  51. TheOneWhoKnows Nothing Posted on February 18, 2017 at 11:04 am

    very good illustrated, thank you very much

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  52. paul lawson Posted on February 19, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    Great vid.
    Less power and better timing is indeed the key

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  53. M Zaman Posted on February 21, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    Another great video with a great deal of insight. I am an intermediate level player. You explained about the timing in this video but could you please explain about following the ball? Should I follow the ball all the way through or just hit it anticipating the possible trajectory after the bounce? Thanks in advance 🙂

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  54. Tonio Yahn Posted on February 23, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    Very interesting video

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  55. larrymar19 Posted on February 26, 2017 at 8:03 am

    this is a great tutorial. very valuable points here. the timing of your shot probably affects your consistency more than the technique of your stroke, which we all obsess about

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  56. Dev Patel Posted on March 2, 2017 at 4:37 am

    Please teach how to improve our forehand flick and what is the perfect timing to do a forehand flick. My opponent does a heavy backspin serve to my short forehand zone. I can just keep that ball short or long push. I am unable to attack it and when I dont attack my opponent takes the attack.

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  57. Joseph Nam Posted on March 3, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    Hey coach, thanks for making these factual and informative videos.
    One issue I have when playing against higher rated players is that whenever they loop kill, I either freeze up and do nothing, or I attempt to block the loop kill and end up having the loop's spin throw the ball out.
    What can I do in this situation (counterloop, angle, etc.)?
    Thanks.

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  58. ExtremeGame TableTennis Posted on March 4, 2017 at 3:40 am

    ¡Thanks for all these terrific videos, coach!

    Reply
  59. orion Posted on March 4, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    Could you upload any video details for wrist-motion for forehand topspin(against block)?

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  60. Bruce Lehrer Posted on March 6, 2017 at 4:28 am

    Excellent, thank you.

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  61. e3t0n Posted on March 7, 2017 at 12:32 pm

    Your videos are always a great source of information but this one is excellent… the table for each shot is invaluable… thank you.

    Reply
  62. KIPP Posted on March 19, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    what a cover photo! 🙂

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  63. Gabri3l Posted on March 23, 2017 at 1:03 am

    What's the Music?
    Good Video 🙂

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  64. Rafael Menesed Posted on March 25, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    regards
    What distances between the table do you consider to be the best to obtain the optimum point for both right and backstroke (knowing that the above varies greatly according to the adversary) I think it is important in the process of Training make this quite clear in the young players so that already I leave in automatic like the majority of the movements in this sport and many others.
    Thanks in advance.

    I'm sorry for my translator's english

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  65. Brian Reinke Posted on March 26, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    amaizing video but, you said that the FH loop must been hit wen the ball is in the highiest moment, and then you write that you must hit in the posicion 4-5 that is when the ball is falling. Sory for my english. Thanks for the video.

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  66. Toshi Nobe Posted on April 21, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    Your TT training sessions are very informative. I enjoy each one of them. Thank you.

    Reply
  67. HANDSOME UG Posted on April 22, 2017 at 7:43 am

    you're one of the best coaches …

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  68. Dima Shevchenko Posted on April 26, 2017 at 4:07 am

    Great coach! Best coach on YouTube!

    Reply
  69. R Janak Sundhar Posted on May 4, 2017 at 3:52 am

    Hello Coach, Its great to watch your videos and contains lot of information supported with lot of technicalities. The timing positions for each type of shot explained in this video is really helpful as to understand when to make the stroke correctly. I have seen many coaches, they don't explain the importance of when to make the stroke and at what particular point, the ball should contact the racket. This video will give a precise understanding and all individuals can learn and practice out of this. Thanks for sharing.

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  70. Константин Гуренко Posted on May 21, 2017 at 2:27 pm

    Век живи и век учись!!!(русская помловица)

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  71. Edwin Yau Posted on May 24, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    Great video, can you also explain how to hit ball that bounces very high but with back spin accurately? Many times I hit the ball into the net even though the ball is so high.

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  72. Krishna Kumar Posted on June 26, 2017 at 6:16 am

    I have a question about keeping the eye on the ball and head position. Till what point should a player keep his eyes on the ball?

    a. Till the ball pitches on my side of the table?
    b. Till the ball starts rising?
    c. Till the bat makes contact with the ball?

    Also, what should be the head position?

    Till yesterday, I was watching the ball till it starts rising after pitching on my side of the table and after that my head automatically turns and my eyes look at the point on the opponent's side of table.

    In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG8tN7tUHyM&t=12s a tennis (not table tennis) coach has explained why we should keep the eyes on the ball till the racket makes contact with the ball and then look at the other side (Roger Federer example in the video).

    I tried to do this in table tennis also today (first time), but I was missing many shots – landing into net or going out of the table. Of course, it will take time, but before I start doing it daily, I would like to know what the right way is. Thank you.

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  73. José M Montoro Posted on August 16, 2017 at 12:16 am

    Great video! One of the most important topics in Table Tennis. But, What do you mean by "Tip n.18 in lenisms"? I'm curious.

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  74. cgandy2 Posted on September 13, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    Another great video! Thank you, Coach!

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  75. MINATO NAMIKAZE Posted on September 30, 2017 at 3:51 am

    You're the best. POWER!!!!. Keep it up the good work. You're the best coach. I learn a lot from you.

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  76. Greentech Dong A Posted on October 17, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    On the last scene, you have listed the timing for each stroke. Does this timing depends on the effect of arriving ball?

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  77. муслим имиров Posted on November 3, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    Отправьте мне с русским переводом

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  78. EmRatThich Table Tennis Coach Posted on November 6, 2017 at 11:19 pm

    Read more the best timing: https://pingsunday.com/optimal-timing-table-tennis-tricks-win/

    Reply
  79. Don Frerichs Posted on November 8, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    Fascinating video!

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  80. W Akkermans Posted on November 14, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    just wanted to say that ive seen a lot of your videos, very clear and instructional!

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  81. Leeman Harrington Posted on December 6, 2017 at 11:01 pm

    Wahhh this is why my forehand loops always go off the table!! Thanks coach!

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  82. umladek ramarsh Posted on December 25, 2017 at 2:17 am

    this is very useful. please add also what part of the ball am I going to contact and do I hit it using the power of rubber only or rubber with the help of the blade.

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  83. ccie8000 Posted on January 31, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Awesome tutorial and video….Keep up the good work Bro

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  84. andrem7th Posted on March 21, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    Im a huge fan of Your videos! More power. Btw are you Chinese or vietnamese?

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  85. HANISH PAHUJA Posted on March 22, 2018 at 3:37 pm

    Any video for how to keep ball long or short on push?Also to keep the ball low on net on push?

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  86. James Edwards Posted on June 3, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    Your stuff is the best I have seen so far EmRat. I have never had much of a BH or FH, so I struggle in Div3, which is the lowest grade in our club. I can not afford coaching either, which makes your videos and training so valuable to me. Your knowledge of the game is impressive, so I am listening hard to everything you say, because I have never had any instruction, really. I wonder if you could explain sometime how to understand the numbers on the racket rubbers. After your video on rubbers and booster, I have become curious as to what I am using. Here are a few numbers on the bats I use. First is Taiji Sanwei T88 (62-007)on both sides……I have no idea what the numbers mean. Second is Tibhar Evolution FX-P (174-012) on both sides. Again, I do not know what to expect with either racket, except that I go outside the table more often with the Tibhar, when I am pushing and chopping…….so I have returned to the T88 for now. The blade with Tibhar is 729 Bomb (OFF), and blade with T88s is Paul Pinkewich (Australian Champion), with no numbers. My game is lots of spin serves, with lots of variation, and then it is defense, as I have no attacking shots, FH or BH. My returns are with lots of sidespin, BH and FH…….so opponents often miss the ball completely. Those who have good topspin drives, both FH and BH, usually have little trouble with me, because they hammer everything that comes high, and sidespin is no problem for that type of shot. So, I remain in the middle of players in this grade. I think your instruction can help me a lot……so I will try to improve now, with the knowledge you give, thank you! JAMES, from Brisbane TT Club, Australia.

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  87. Aravind Kukkila Posted on June 30, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    Thanks a lot for making this video, it made learning different table tennis techniques on my own much easier.

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  88. Clintonm03 Posted on July 13, 2018 at 2:46 pm

    I've only started following/watching/learning about Professional Table Tennis about a month ago and I'm so utterly amazed and the stroke mechanics and understanding the flow of the game in slow motion. Thank you for all these videos for all your advice!
    谢谢先生!

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  89. sandeep kumar Posted on July 27, 2018 at 2:13 am

    very nice sir……

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  90. Regi Posted on August 2, 2018 at 10:06 am

    Thank you very much! This was very informative and I will try to adjust my play, I'm still a beginner that's learning 😛

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  91. Vatsala Shah Posted on August 28, 2018 at 10:36 am

    FH TOPSPIN TY

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  92. Russel Dingal Posted on November 21, 2018 at 11:41 am

    philippines here?

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  93. Besnik Jahja Posted on December 1, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    Good explanation

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  94. Mark Crum Posted on January 26, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    Dear Coach, I really needed this video. I have played for a long time and achieved a fairly high level, but have had about a 15 year layoff. So I have been watching your videos to sort of "re-learn" the game from the ground up. In coming back I have found that I "wiff" (just plain miss) on the ball a lot… and on super easy shots too! So this video really hit home. "Fix" the ball. It has really helped a lot. Thank you! I am having a bit of trouble on the backhand Fixing the ball at the 3 position since at impact you really don't see the ball striking the blade. Feel seems to be far more the key. But still my perception of the ball coming straight at me seems harder for me to see when the ball hits the 3 pos. Any advise on Fixing the ball at a position on the backhand that may help me? Thank you so much for your great videos and help! Mark

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  95. Pratik Vishwakarma Posted on June 28, 2019 at 5:07 am

    Awesomely said brother.. very Informative

    Reply
  96. Rogier van den Broek Posted on July 15, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    5:10, this isn't a backhand push

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