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TENNIS KICK SERVE | Tennis Drill How To Hit A Kick Serve – TENNIS SERVE LESSON


Alright, so, we’re going to talk about the Dirty Diaper right now and the reason why it’s called the Dirty Diaper is that One day, I was going over this concept with a with a young boy and he- he said that it- the ending of it felt like he was holding his brother’s dirty diaper. So we coined the- we coined the name Dirty Diaper. So, basically, for people that want to learn how to hit top spin serve, we feel that this is a great drill to use. Now, let me point out, first of all, by saying that if you’re a young boy where, you know, under the age of 12 or 13, and you experience any type of pain in your shoulder, or it doesn’t feel right, immediately stop and stick with more of the flat or the slice serve. But, I feel like If you do the right mechanics, if your body is relaxed, and you do it at a slow pace, you should be okay, but, just keep that in mind ahead of time. The other thing that I want to point out is that If you’re- you’re going to be finishing on the same side of your body when you’re done and there’s a tendency for people to be too straight with their arm and that can cause some stress as well. So, it’s very important at the very end to feel relaxed like this. So, this again, is one of the go-to drills whether you’re standing, or whether you’re on the ground. Now, the reason we’re going to put you on the ground is it’s going to teach you how to use your body correctly, because too many servers are going to be facing the net when they hit the ball, and they just come around and hit slice. But if you learn to stay more sideways on the serve, and keep your shoulders tilted in this manner, instead of facing like this, going to keep it tilted in this manner, then you can learn the correct way to the path the racket moves. Now, this is different for a top spin serve. This is different than the flat serve, where you pronate out like this. Okay, you’ll notice how the racket strings are facing this direction. When you swing and you’re done, you actually would want the strings to face towards you. This is how you can come up and over the ball like this. It’s almost like I’m swinging coming up and over like this. Okay. So, I’m going to get down on my knees and I’m going to do the Dirty Diaper, and kind of go through this right now. So, you can get down on both knees like this or you can find, I’ll take a ball, thanks. Or you can find you know, this position here, with- with the back knee or back leg in this position, the back foot is on the ground. Okay, but I’m going to do it with both knees on the ground. Now, what you’re going to learn when you do this is that your toss might be too far out this way, where you have to reach, and, kind of, slice- slice the ball. Okay, you’re going to be out like this, but if you learn to toss it over your head then you can get that dirty diaper feel. Alright, so you can toss it over your head like that, now you’re going to notice that when you’re on your knees, your toss is going to be the biggest thing you’re going to learn about. You’re going to find that, maybe, your toss is out here and you have to reach, and the racket hits the ground, right? You’re also going to find that it’s going to be hard for you just to relax and bend your arm like this. Okay, notice that most people are going to swing and their ra- their hand is going to be straight, and it’s going to go down like this. And that’s a big change to make, but that’s why we put you on the ground so you can learn that and, really, it’s a very simple once you get the mechanics down, the muscle memory, I mean, I know that’s a- a big disclaimer there, but once you get it down, it feels really nice because, basically, you’re just popping the ball up in the air like this. And again, the reference points are: I’m going to start with my racket here, strings are facing towards where you’re going to hit the ball, I’m not in this position, I’m not scratching my back like this, I’m just relaxed right here. Okay, I’m relaxed right here, I toss it, and then I finish right here. If I tilt my shoulders a little more, then, I can actually lift my elbow like that. Start here, over my head, tilt my shoulders, notice the strings are facing like this, that’s it. Now, if I hold that too long, I will feel some tension on my shoulder, because I’m holding it up. But, again, this is not something where you’re swinging a hundred miles an hour, so, it should feel pretty good if you get this right. And this is how you can start to develop that top spin serve. Okay, then you can stand up… and you can stand up, and do the exact same thing when you get the feel. Okay, so the big point that I wanted to drive home today is that I think you can learn a top spin serve, well, I know it, if you’re willing to take the time. You can start on your knees, and the key bullet points are: again, how to start, obviously, you have to have the right grip, which is more of a continental grip, but starting to move towards the back hand. Okay. And then you get the racket started in the right place, you get your toss arching over your head, and then you find that spot right here. Another good- another good coach that I’ve worked with talked about almost brushing, combing the back of your hair, with the swing, like that, now you don’t want your hand too close to your head. You want it back here, but if you can brush like that, up the back of your head, that’s a nice analogy as well. And then, you simply just finish on the same side of your body, with the strings facing you. So hopefully, you enjoyed this Dirty Diaper drill, and, go out and try it. For more great serve lessons, I want you to go ahead and click the link below, and I’m going to help you absolutely transform your serve.

David Frank

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100 COMMENTS

  1. s s Posted on December 16, 2012 at 5:31 am

    Hi i'm a rec player and just been playing tennis for 10 days… Can you give me an advice on my serve because i can't seen to keep the ball in the service box. Maybe because I'm five feet tall? My height cannot be resolved since I'm already 18 years old, also I'm a girl.

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  2. Needzonee Posted on December 20, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Wait a minute… You play left-handed, but you serve right-handed?

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  3. al b Posted on December 20, 2012 at 1:51 am

    On your niss intresting smarf

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  4. RawrKellysaur Posted on December 29, 2012 at 12:16 am

    height has nothing to do with getting it in the box or not, i'm five feet one and can do it. it just takes practice and some tweeking!

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  5. Riley R Posted on January 12, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    @picmman then why did you watch the video

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  6. TennisMindCamp Posted on January 13, 2013 at 4:36 am

    Dirty diaper… classic! Funny, but the cool part is… It paints a great picture and makes the concept much easier for players to both remember and execute!

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  7. CrispyRice Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:30 am

    I thought he was going to jump up and smash it down like ryoma from prince of tennis

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  8. Misty May Posted on January 13, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    yes this very good I am going to work on this next time I play and kick butts.

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  9. Donny Hunt Posted on January 14, 2013 at 3:26 am

    Thank you for the drill and lesson.

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  10. Matthew Trotman Posted on February 3, 2013 at 1:19 am

    TennisCoachTV . Hi Jeff a coach told me to treat it like almost a throwing motion , like I am throwing the ball over the net. Is that a good way to go about it ? It,s very consistent for a second serve , but my coach seems to be able to hit it 10 times harder than me thought .

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  11. Matthew Trotman Posted on February 3, 2013 at 1:20 am

    TennisCoachTV . A coach really , not a personal one . But he is really good I think

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  12. VL123 Posted on February 11, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    love the concept of practicing the toss on the knees..

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  13. Vice Ren Posted on February 12, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    I played football all my life now im going into tennis wierd transfer

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  14. Chris Shepherd Posted on February 14, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    That is how Rafael Nadal started

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  15. relinquis Posted on February 16, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    this works… thanks!

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  16. Jack Schoeman Posted on February 18, 2013 at 6:21 am

    The true key to the kick serve is to think of the ball as a clock face and brush the ball from 7 o'clock to 2 o'clock. This gives the ball topspin and the kick out wide.

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  17. Jack Schoeman Posted on February 18, 2013 at 6:22 am

    Lefties— 5 o'clock to 10 o'clock

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  18. Nils Kraus Posted on February 19, 2013 at 3:37 am

    the dirty diaper….wtf ?!

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  19. Terence Hill Posted on February 21, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    He looks like Andy Murray in a spacesuit. Booring! Didn't learn anything.

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  20. Yipai Posted on February 22, 2013 at 3:48 am

    Jeff,
    what is your serve speed?

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  21. FellowWorldCitizen Posted on February 22, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    You can measure your own serve speed with the App called 'ServeSpeed' for the iPhone. This way you can compare yourself to the pro's. the test results from the australian open show that it is maximum 2 miles off the professional radar gun, which is extremely good! 🙂

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  22. Adrian Jones Posted on March 1, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Thanks for the excellent video.
    Aiming from 7 to 1 o' clock (righties);
    is this clock face on the top of the ball (parallel to the ground) or is it at the back of the ball, facing the server?
    'm not getting any kick but I can see a sideway spin, as if I hit the ball on the right. I'm hitting the ball over my head and I am positioned sideways to the fence. Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.

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  23. Adrian Jones Posted on March 1, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    I've just noticed that Jeff seems to be snapping his wrist on contacting the ball. Is this part of the procedure?

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  24. Benjamin Bidlack Posted on March 14, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    Fantastic video, Jeff. Thanks so much for posting.

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  25. pappoSCWr Posted on March 18, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    andy murray sosia

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  26. FewTheProud Realism Posted on March 24, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    not using a correct grip but okay

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  27. Heimdall M. Posted on April 3, 2013 at 4:01 am

    really good leassons, thanks

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  28. Gigi Galyean Posted on April 5, 2013 at 1:32 am

    I can not wait to try the kick serve. I have injured my wrist and it is very difficult for me to snap my wrist. Thanks for the tip.

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  29. Alexander Cortez Posted on April 5, 2013 at 7:40 am

    Andy Murray teaching the kick serve! 😀

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  30. 8scatterbrain8 Posted on April 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    he doesn't look like andy murray at all what's wrong with you people

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  31. John Ryan Posted on April 13, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    very good lesson i learned two things i was doing wrong the toss was not over my head and the racket face didnt start out facing the target cant wait to try this

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  32. Cihan A Posted on April 22, 2013 at 12:44 am

    excellent lesson. The breakdown was really helpful

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  33. Sanjib Mukhopadhyay Posted on April 22, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    you should fire off a coule nice serves at the end…would make for a better vid…

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  34. OnlyLogic Posted on April 25, 2013 at 9:03 am

    Sorry guys, but I immediately wouldn't trust this guy. The way he holds his racket and how high his hand is on the handle is very bad practice.

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  35. John Ryan Posted on April 27, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    i think the reason that he is chocking up on the grip is the learn the mechanics of the serve

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  36. John Ryan Posted on April 27, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    in my humble opinion if you are seeing sideway spin there wont be a kick for the kick to work there has to be top spin my two cents for what it is worth

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  37. Parth Desai Posted on April 30, 2013 at 2:52 am

    Hey i notices your racquet. Is that the Aero Pro Drive GT? If so is it any different from the regular Aero Pro drive?

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  38. tekky Posted on May 6, 2013 at 1:18 am

    My 2nd serve is the twist serve, leaning more onto side spin. I don't really get kick when I hit twist serves.

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  39. ryan kim Posted on May 12, 2013 at 10:22 am

    You're so great!!

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  40. Faye Crystal Posted on May 23, 2013 at 10:29 am

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  41. RomanoAmericano Posted on May 23, 2013 at 7:21 pm

    Sorry coach, but Federer and many others serve a wicked kick serve WITH pronation.

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  42. RomanoAmericano Posted on May 23, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Basically you're teaching a weak kick serve, club-level.

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  43. Yucel Guldali Posted on May 26, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    I wonder if you are aware of it but you're setting a bad example for grip…

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  44. Joachim Günther Posted on June 5, 2013 at 8:25 am

    Hallo,
    a very goog lesson, i'm practicing it very successful. An easy way to serve.
    But what is the next step?
    Greetings from Germany…

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  45. Ben Falk Posted on June 11, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    You are accually not supposed to come over the ball you are supposed to come up under the ball

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  46. rocky171986 Posted on June 21, 2013 at 7:05 am

    You're such a hottie 😉

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  47. Esmilo Posted on June 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    assuming the position at 2:15 ROFL 🙂

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  49. EugeneMcOck Posted on August 14, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    unfortunately you are not allowed to kick the ball in tennis so a 'kick serve' is completely useless

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  50. Oscar herandez Posted on August 15, 2013 at 1:52 am

    sure that was good but where you had your grip. Where you placed your hand its different where I hold mine.

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  51. Ariel Schneider Posted on August 17, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    Hey Jeff just out of curiosity where do you coach out of?

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  52. Kapritchosa Posted on August 19, 2013 at 4:06 am

    "I know that is a big disclaimer." 🙂

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  53. Sameer Anwari Posted on September 19, 2013 at 1:00 am

    thumbs up if prince of tennis brought u here! PRINCE OF TENNIS FOREVA! :"D

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  54. Fumoaririki Posted on October 4, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Can you do Twisted Spin Shot?

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  55. Fumoaririki Posted on October 4, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Can you do Twisted Spin Shot?

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  56. tennisislandtv Posted on October 6, 2013 at 4:38 am

    It is good to see more helpful videos on YT. Glad to see this professional tip. Good job

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  57. Diego Sepultura Posted on November 14, 2013 at 4:58 am

    Doing the "Dirty diaper" maneuver you gonna lose your elbow in a short period of time

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  58. guido fascioli Posted on December 18, 2013 at 2:35 pm

    this is a very dangerous technique, it will help you to get injured quite easily.

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  59. TheWaterboy02 Posted on April 11, 2014 at 11:38 am

    why is this called the 'dirty diaper'?!!

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  60. Alex Limbach Posted on April 22, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    So i'm gonna get down on my knees… and do the dirty diaper

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  61. wannabeFaZE1 Posted on April 23, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    Why are you holding the racket so far up? You dont actually play like that do you?

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  62. revsaredead Posted on July 11, 2014 at 6:08 am

    I'm gonna get down on my knees and do the dirty diaper LOLOLOLOLOL what a joke this guy is high

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  63. JERMAINE JONES Posted on July 14, 2014 at 12:11 am

    Mada mada Dane

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  64. nav6maini Posted on July 14, 2014 at 8:15 am

    You're supposed to kick serve with pronation …

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  65. monstertrucktennis Posted on July 27, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    Hilarious how many commenters talk about pronation without noticing that's exactly what's happening in this video.

    Nicely done.
    On the knees helps to illustrate the vertical force required.

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  66. marshall886 Posted on September 7, 2014 at 8:09 am

    I am not sure he means for people to be holding the racket that way for serving. Is he just doing that for the demo?

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  67. DevRaj Adhirana Posted on December 2, 2014 at 4:11 am

    I Really appreciate the nice way you go  to go about teachung the Diper  Kick Serve.

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  68. Elliot Mc Posted on January 6, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    So much rambling

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  69. Laurence Henderson Posted on March 22, 2015 at 7:29 pm

    Hi thanks for the video and really like the brushing up the back of you head part and just trying to understand the finish more. Are the different finish positions dependant on direction e.g out wide on the ad court? I've been watching this link of Stosur and her palm ends up away after the brush up by the looks of it…what can you see? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnqYduBcmNQ

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  70. Gregory Troy Posted on March 30, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    Great VIDEO! Million thanks for sharing!

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  71. Hazamatoxin Posted on April 12, 2015 at 11:40 pm

    the shit you search when you have watched too much Prince of tennis!! XD!!

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  72. The Fam 4 Posted on December 12, 2015 at 8:24 am

    Being a coach myself it is great to see other coaches thinking outside the box. This is a great way to demonstrate how a top spin serve works to junior players. I will incorporate this into a lesson. Thank you for sharing

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  73. joselo yasay Posted on March 18, 2016 at 11:55 am

    Is the babolat aeropure drive good for beginners

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  74. Christiaan Hart Nibbrig Posted on August 20, 2016 at 1:34 am

    Outstanding! Thanks for posting.

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  75. San Writes Posted on September 8, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    what if we finish up? like stretching hand fully up. 1) Is it healthy? Is that a standard serve?

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  76. saespyder Posted on October 1, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    Hey coach, my topspin serve continually goes long. Any idea what's causing that?

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  77. James Murphy Posted on November 29, 2016 at 5:36 pm

    terrific tip on the kick serve

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  78. James Murphy Posted on January 18, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    very good tip on grip, racquet position and hitting motion. thx

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  79. Callaham Sepe Posted on February 12, 2017 at 8:01 am

    Great to see that your skill… Try Unflexal workouts to be more flexal 🙂

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  80. James Murphy Posted on February 14, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    very good coaching tip

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  81. Genaro Flores Posted on May 22, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    great instructional video Jeff! I have one question: is the kick serve the same as the American twist serve? Many thanks 😊

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  82. Air Guitar Posted on June 16, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    Great point about being on your knees. I will try this next time i get out on the court.

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  83. David G. Posted on July 17, 2017 at 8:42 am

    I am sure every top ranked Junior in Colorado wants to take weekly lesson with this guy. It's like having your own ATP coach. I bet he is booked up with 10 hours of lessons a day.

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  84. David G. Posted on July 17, 2017 at 8:49 am

    if I remember… Jeff had a superb serve.. so I would take every word as he says as gold.

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  85. Yana Rawat Posted on July 22, 2017 at 6:55 am

    Dear coach, for kick serve this is great drill, however I noticed pro while kick serve they brush up and extend their hand fully towards right side and then pronate. Pls correct me. Thanks. R S Rawat

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  86. Nick Posted on August 2, 2017 at 2:07 am

    When you are doing that drill should you be choked up on the racquet like you are in the video or should you hold the racquet normally with a continental grip?

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  87. Donk To Pro Posted on September 10, 2017 at 8:40 am

    why are you using your right arm?????????????

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  88. TooleyPeter Posted on October 12, 2017 at 2:24 am

    This was a breakthrough video for me as a coach learning how to teach the topspin serve.  I can only guess others found it as helpful as I did as I've noticed other instructors using this very same teaching technique in more recent serving videos.

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  89. Le EasyBlog Posted on October 13, 2017 at 11:46 am

    For a second I thought it was dimitrov
    Awesome tip by the way

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  90. Mariana Perry Posted on October 17, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    Hi Jeff. Thank you so much for this amazing tip. I have been trying to improve my daughter's second serve for two years and had lots of trouble getting the ball to kick. This trick worked for us immediately for us. We are so grateful! Thanks alot!!!

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  91. Chad Parsons Posted on October 29, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    Excellent walk through of the key points – Thanks Jeff!

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  92. TIM Posted on November 17, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    hi Jeff, do you recommend incorporating the shoulder turn into this dirty diaper on knees drill?  I've seen all your serve videos and they are the best on youtube, I've seen tons of serve videos oline.. I know you're all about the shoulder turn..  i'm finally getting it into the muscle memory slowly, using the half serve drill in your other video and trying to blend that shoulder turn it w/ your continuous loop drill so its not so stiff and get some natural racquet drop..

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  93. TIM Posted on November 23, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    Hi Jeff, I keep going back to your serve videos..  the concept of 'up and over' in your kick serve video:  I see that the dirty diaper drill is 'up' but regarding the 'over' part on your complete serve, is it more or less a curl finish?  I know you advocate the curl in your one of your slice videos, but I'm just wondering if in the end the ultimate follow through is a curl finish for both your slice and kick serves.  (i.e  for the kick serve, after you make that U shape, you end up curling through).  thanks again Jeff

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  94. tizmon Posted on July 30, 2018 at 2:26 am

    i only saw two videos of yours and shocked to find difference being complete opposite of what i know to be true in crucial points. in this video i completely disagree to your suggestion to curl your wrist to have your palm face you. this is the most common mistake that club level players make to prevent them from using pronation in their spin serves. i can’t believe ex top 100 atp player thinks this way. you must been talented. you did everything intuitively without understanding the logic. i just feel sorry for your believers who assumes your ability as tennis coach is something close to your achievements as a player. as i said out two materials you are off in the worst ways.

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  95. Tennis Evolution - Online Tennis Lessons Posted on December 5, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    Kick Serve myths debunked: Former Top 100 ATP Pro, Jeff Salzenstein, is exposing 3 common myths that could be crippling your kick serve potential. Most players make at least 1 of these 3 mistakes… Do you? https://goo.gl/8ffHz3

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  96. K C Posted on October 8, 2019 at 8:14 am

    Thank you for this. This is your best video along with the other kick serve video where you don’t even look like you are trying and drop kickers that get stuck in the side fence (almost looks like CGI). You are a good dude.

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